Spengler Why France will do nothing about the Paris Massacre: Spengler

Asia Times ^ | November 15, 2015 | David P. Goldman

[QT3.14]

Ignored in news coverage of the Paris massacre is the single most pertinent piece of background: A 2014 opinion poll found that ISIS had an approval rating in France (at 16%) almost as high as President Francois Holland (at 18%). In the 18-to-24-year-old demographic, ISIS’ support jumped to 27%. Muslims comprise about a tenth of France’s population, so the results imply that ISIS had the support of the overwhelming majority of French Muslims (and especially Muslim youth), as well as the endorsement of a large part of the non-Muslim Left.

Reporting the survey, conducted by the polling organization ICM for a Russian news service, Newsweek’s France correspondent Anne-Elizabeth Moutet wrote, “This is the ideology of young French Muslims from immigrant backgrounds, unemployment to the tune of 40%, who’ve been deluged by satellite TV and internet propaganda.”

[QT3.14]

I'm curious why France's bombing campaign is just now targeting ISIS elements that they knew were there before 11.13?

In the meantime, will the Muslim polls shown in France be the same after the U.S. is flooded with 'refugees.'

[Dr. Pritchett]

France has been involved in the bombing campaign for years.

I’m still waiting for them to do something DIFFERENT since last Friday.

[Dallas59]

Ask the US to fight for them? That ain’t gonna happen. Already the progressive socialists are blaming Climate Changy.

[CharlesOConnell]

Bomb in the Basement: Israel never would have attained plausibly deniable nuclearity without France.

[bronxville]

Great article. Thanks for posting it. Picture from the link... . French Muslims at prayer...

[MasterGunner01]

Mr. Hollande should be bombing all the mosques in France and not bothering about Syria. France needs to expel all its Muslims as terrorists [because they ARE].

[rusureitflies?]

My thoughts exactly... mourning doesn’t mean a damn thing.... only retaliation with courage and force... we’ll see who is in the tank with our ass-hat prez.

[healy61]

16 per cent support will only increase as fence sitters decide that it is safer to join ISIS than to support the French government.

[Vesparado]

This article by a Frenchman may indicate that this is one of those rare occasions when Spengler has missed the boat: http://www.city-journal.org/2015/eon1116pb.html

[Rockingham]

Most of the time, the French are cream puffs, but when history takes a turn, they can become remarkably bloody-minded, as the reign of terror in the French Revolution and their 1.15 million military dead in World War One demonstrate. In the event of a major outbreak of intifada style Muslim communal violence, I would not be surprised to see the French Army called in to reduce one or more offending banileus to rubble.

[Cronos]

Paris massscre of 1961

The Paris massacre of 1961 was a massacre in Paris on 17 October 1961, during the Algerian War (1954–62). Under orders from the head of the Parisian police, Maurice Papon, the French National Police attacked an illegal demonstration of some 30,000 pro-National Liberation Front (FLN) Algerians. Two months before, the FLN had decided to increase its bombing in France and to resume the campaign against both pro-France Algerians and the rival Algerian nationalist organization, the Algerian National Movement in France. After 37 years of denial, in 1998 the French government acknowledged 40 deaths, although there are estimates of over 200

[Rockingham]

As the French might say of such an episode, “À grands maux, grands remèdes.” (Desperate times call for desperate measures).

[Tax-chick]

I find this linked article much less persuasive than Spengler’s.