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France levels ISIS in Raqqa after Paris attack
Hotair ^ | 11/15/2015 | Taylor Millard

Posted on 11/15/2015 7:03:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind

France is staying true to its promise to wage war on ISIS by dropping bomb after bomb on the terrorist group’s capital of Raqqa. From CNN.

The targets included a command center, a recruitment center, an ammunition storage base and a training camp for the terror group, said Mickael Soria, press adviser for France’s defense minister.
ISIS claims Raqqa as the capital of its so-called caliphate. The airstrikes come two days after a series of terrorist attacks in Paris on Friday. ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attacks, which France’s President described as “an act of war.”

Twelve aircraft, including 10 fighter jets, were involved in Sunday’s airstrikes, Soria said.

Twenty bombs were dropped, he said, and all of the targets were destroyed.

This goes along with French President Francois Hollande vow to rigorously defend itself after Friday’s attack in Paris. Via CBC News:

Speaking to the country Saturday, Hollande said the attacks were “committed by a terrorist army, the Islamic State group, a jihadist army, against France, against the values that we defend everywhere in the world, against what we are: A free country that means something to the whole planet.”

Hollande said France “will be merciless toward the barbarians of the Islamic State group.” France “will act by all means anywhere, inside or outside the country.”

Good on the French for doing this. It may come as a shock to people here, but I’ve got no problem with France, the Arab League, and Russia obliterating ISIS off the face of the planet. It will be interesting to see if the U.S. decides to team-up with Russia in the ISIS fight, although it doesn’t seem likely. The New York Times reported this afternoon President Barack Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin talked face to face for over half an hour on Syria and ISIS. How the talk went depends on the source.

“The conversation lasted approximately 35 minutes and centered around ongoing efforts to resolve the conflict in Syria, an imperative made all the more urgent by the horrifying terrorist attacks in Paris,” an American official said.

But Russian officials described the meeting in less glowing terms, saying that Mr. Obama and Mr. Putin remained at odds over how to achieve those goals

“The strategic goals concerning the battle with ISIS, in principle they are very close to each other,” Yuri V. Ushakov, a foreign policy adviser to Mr. Putin, told reporters. “But on tactics, the two sides are currently diverging.”

This shouldn’t be a shocker to anyone because Putin probably wants Obama to stop going after him for supporting Assad, while Obama holds plenty of enmity towards Putin. These differences may end up hindering any cooperation between the countries until 2017, unless Obama decides to come off his high horse and be willing to compromise. But this is Obama we’re talking about and his version of “compromise” is getting everything he wants. It just seems highly unlikely an agreement will be reached outside of the occasional, “don’t walk over into my side of Syria,” pact America and Russia agreed to last month.

What’s more curious is whether France will start working with Russia in Syria against ISIS. France is part of the coalition pushing for Assad’s ouster, but if the focus is going to be on ISIS itself, then maybe “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” is the best way to go. This is something UK Prime Minister David Cameron seems interested in doing, according to Independent.

"We have our differences with the Russians, not least because they've done so much to degrade the non-Isil [Isis] opposition to Assad, people who could be part of the future of Syria.

"But the conversation I want to have with Vladimir Putin is to say, 'Look, there is one thing we agree about which is we'd be safer in Russia, we'd be safer in Britain if we destroy Isil. That's what we should be focusing on'."

He’s going to have a talk with Parliament on getting more involved in Syria. So the world is responding to ISIS and promising to wipe them out. That’s awesome; let them. The quadrillion dollar question is whether all the countries will be able to agree on a strategy. Europe and the Arab League (if they decide to get off their laurels and start fighting ISIS) may have to take a bitter pill and accept Assad until ISIS is destroyed. Russia may have to accept not bombing moderate rebels (if they exist) and actually focus on ISIS. There’s your strategy for destroying ISIS in Syria, if the countries are willing to work together. Which is always easier said than done because everyone has their own goals for the region. It’s nice to see France, Russia, and England vow to take out ISIS. Let them do it by themselves and here’s hoping they succeed.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: france; isis; paris; raqqa
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1 posted on 11/15/2015 7:03:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Level the whole damn city.

Let it be known that ISIS will not be allowed to exist in the confines of any city. If they show up, the city is doomed.

That way the residents of any city where they may show up will be properly motivated make sure they aren’t allowed to stay.


2 posted on 11/15/2015 7:08:02 PM PST by Gamecock (Preach the gospel daily, use words if necessary is like saying Feed the hungry use food if necessary)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is a shameful time for the USA when the French and the Russians are fighting the satanic Muslims while our vindictive president releases Muslim fighters from Gitmo.


3 posted on 11/15/2015 7:12:26 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind

So if we knew where all these targets were, how come they weren’t already bombed off the face of the earth???


4 posted on 11/15/2015 7:16:38 PM PST by LTC.Ret
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To: LTC.Ret

10 planes and 20 bombs. 5 minutes work.


5 posted on 11/15/2015 7:20:10 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: LTC.Ret
Wow in 48 hours the French found ISIS, set up a bombing run, dropped 20 bombs and hit everything.

Is Raqqa still stands? If yes, go back and bomb until there is not a wall stands. If you don't, they will come after you again.

Hey France didn't you learn in the Second World War that appeasing the Germans and playing defense is a country losing position. Attack the cockroaches and destroy them.

6 posted on 11/15/2015 7:23:30 PM PST by Kozy
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To: SeekAndFind

If one can believe they actually did this, it begs the question; why didn’t Obola have OUR air forces do this a year or more ago?


7 posted on 11/15/2015 7:29:23 PM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is NOT a major bombardment. It is about the payload of ONE non-nuclear B-52.


8 posted on 11/15/2015 7:29:36 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Gamecock
Level the whole damn city.

Destroy the oil fields they control in Iraq. They are making millions of dollars a day and are financing a lot of things with this money.

Arm the Kurds and any Christian militias that are left.

Bomb their mosques. Kill their religious/political leaders.

The problem with the migrants is there is no way to verify any information on them. Whatever they tell you their name is you have no way of knowing if it's true or not. Send them back unless you can verify (how) that they are Christians fleeing persecution.

9 posted on 11/15/2015 7:29:55 PM PST by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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To: Tucker39

“...why didn’t Obola have OUR air forces do this a year or more ago?”

...because someone might get hurt?


10 posted on 11/15/2015 7:31:19 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: Kozy

Yeah ONLY 20 bombs? What about carpet bombing the place with several squadrons of B-52’s? Just level it for crying out loud! That’s what we did to Germany, round the clock decimation. Turn it into a modern day Sodom & Gomorrah destruction. Why can’t these so called leaders besides Trump see this? He at least say bomb the crap out of them and I assume this is what he means.


11 posted on 11/15/2015 7:32:10 PM PST by pangaea6
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To: SeekAndFind

I see, we (the French, in this case) wait until ISIS LEVELS THEIR CITIES before trying to hit them where it hurts.

...and by the way, did they consult with the Obama Administration, as I would think the Obama Administration may have a word or two to say about how the attacks on ISIS only furthers the “Cycle of Violence” in the Middle East...or does that only apply to Israel defending itself?


12 posted on 11/15/2015 7:32:44 PM PST by BobL ( (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: Kozy

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Russia-strikes-ISIS-stronghold-Raqqa-in-Syria-US-led-coalition-warns-of-escalation/articleshow/49198019.cms


13 posted on 11/15/2015 7:33:27 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: BobL

Obama wasn’t happy about Russia bombing Raqqa a month ago....and told Russia to stop it.


14 posted on 11/15/2015 7:35:09 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: LTC.Ret

This is a question that needs to be asked repeated. Loud and often.


15 posted on 11/15/2015 7:35:55 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: 2harddrive

“It is NOT a major bombardment. It is about the payload of ONE non-nuclear B-52.”

I’d say that about 20 sorties with the 2000-pounders on the menu at the link below would do the trick.

http://www.stratofortress.org/current-operations.htm

You know, the Russians are still biding their time for their own payback, and you know that it will be grossly disproportionate.


16 posted on 11/15/2015 7:36:24 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why hasn’t this been done before by the US-led coalition? What the Hell are we bombing there?


17 posted on 11/15/2015 7:37:42 PM PST by kabar
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To: LTC.Ret

That’s what I’d like to know!
I guess they’re not so worried about some collateral damage now?


18 posted on 11/15/2015 7:41:17 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SeekAndFind

What a shame - the French government has more balls than ours.


19 posted on 11/15/2015 7:43:48 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: kabar

You didn’t know? Empty buildings in the middle of the night.

Remember last summer when at least 3000 were gathered in the desert getting ready to take over a city in Iraq? Obama refused to bomb the crap out of them, they took over the city a couple of weeks later.

All Obama has been doing is just enough to look like he’s doing something. But not enough to do any real damage to his best friends.


20 posted on 11/15/2015 7:50:23 PM PST by Paleo Pete (I'm with the bomb squad. If you see me running, CATCH UP!)
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