Posted on 11/11/2015 6:18:36 AM PST by Isara
Ted Cruz had a terrific night. He had a stand-out answer on immigration and wages, and made his own fortune by getting into an argument with John Kasich on bank bailouts, enunciating the anti-bailout position forcefully and repeatedly (although I don't really believe he wouldn't bail out a major financial institution in the midst of a financial panic if he were president). He was pointed, eloquent, and, of course, very conservative.
Marco Rubio was very good, as well. But I thought Rubio was slightly better than Cruz last time, and that Cruz was slightly better this time. Rubio just felt a little off. Journalists were complaining on Twitter about how canned Rubio is, and truth be told, he is during these events (as are Cruz and Carly Fiorina). The trick is hiding it and tonight Rubio seemed to be more obviously downloading speech fragments than in other debates. That said, he won the exchange with Rand Paul on foreign policy, ably defended his child tax credit, and didn't have an affirmatively bad moment.
Both Cruz and Rubio are highly capable of defending themselves. You really never have to worry about them in an exchange, and that quality will stand them in good stead going forward.
Ben Carson was pleasant. He predictably hit the question about his bio out of the park and brought up politically correctness at the end. He, once again, wasn't commanding on the substance, but it hasn't mattered to this point.
Donald Trump was largely subdued, although he perked up to slap down Kasich and broadcast how he has let Fiorina get under his skin with his complaint about her interrupting that got boos. He obviously knows nothing about the TPP that he so passionately opposes, and Rand Paul showed him up on that. He's also at sea on foreign policy. Overall, a more respectable, but still poor showing.
Jeb Bush was definitely better, but just OK. He seemed to lose momentum as the night went on. But it should be enough to stem a potential donor panic.
Carly Fiorina had several nice riffs, and a cutting line at Trump's expense (she met Vladimir Putin and not in a green room).
Rand Paul allowed himself to be Rand Paul. It was his best debate, even if it's hard to see it helping him much.
John Kasich, irritable and out of step with the party, may end up buying himself a ticket to the undercard.
Speaking of that, Chris Christie was the best performer in the early debate, even if he didn't attempt to defend his New Jersey record from Bobby Jindal's repeated jibes. Christie effectively brushed Jindal off, but the Louisiana governor certainly got across the message that he wanted to-that he disdains big government Republicans.
“Why blacks (the group hit hardest by illegal competition) would ever vote for a Democrat is beyond me.”
Welfare.
In an interview with Cavuto afterwards, Cruz said it was silly for Kasich to suggest that the depositors would lose because they have depositer insurance. He is correct. He probably assumes that Kasich is more knowledgeable, especially since he worked in banking.
Yeah, Cruz is GOPe.
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Kasich, Bush and Paul need to be gone. They add nothing.
Yes and yes.
If Bank of America failed, all of the depositors would have their funds (up to $250,000 worth, the FDIC insured limit) transferred to another bank of their choice by the Federal Reserve.
But Bank of America would be no more.
It seemed to me that Rubio had all his answers memorized. He was completely canned.
I agree...Rubio looked programmed.
Rubie absoulutely cannot be trusted. His stands on TPP, immigration and it seems he wants a new outlandish military so he can send the all over the world are the three biggies for me.
All banks contribute to a fund which is administered by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.
If the FDIC should run dry, only then is the federal government liable.
From your mouth to God’s ear!
Exactly. The banks (stockholders) gained at the expense of the taxpayers. I don’t think the banks were treated fairly in the events leading up to the crisis ( gov’t forcing them to give credit to people that can’t pay it back). Another example of the gov’t screwing up and the people paying for it.
Marco Rubio was very good, as well.??
Funny, it looked to me like Rubio was fighting for Jeb’s place as Hillary’s Running Mate.
Lowry is a GOPe twit. While I prefer Cruz by a large margin, the comment about Trump “knowing nothing” about the TPP was asinine. In one sense Lowry was almost right - nobody outside of the negotiators really has a full grasp of that nearly 6,000 page monstrosity. I’m sure Lowry has no grasp of it at all and hasn’t read it, so he isn’t in any position to say what anyone else knows or doesn’t know. Not one candidate on that stage has read the agreement, but all of the major candidates (except, maybe, Carson) have been briefed. I have no doubt that Trump understands it far better than Ritchie Lowry, and Cruz and Paul probably know the most about it. You can be sure that buried in the nearly 6k pages are sovereignty stealing provisions and a lot of crony capitalist dreck.
Agreed, but maybe Jeb! is a helpful distraction for GOPe. Let them sink their money into his inevitable loss while the rest of us decide on a winner.
If illegals are an economic/wages issue, it follows that the situation cannot be corrected by leaving them in place.
The clear inference is a policy of deportation -- initially, the encouragement of self-deportation.
“I see the voice of GOPe (National Review) is still pushing their stealth candidate. Ted Cruz can be relied upon to continue the ruling classes’ globalist agenda.”
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Wow, if you think the (in recent years) voice of the GOPe is supporting Ted Cruz...I want some of what you’ve been drinking.
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