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Why aren’t Republicans trying to figure out how to take out Ben Carson?
The Washington Post ^ | November 9th, 2015 | By Paul Waldman

Posted on 11/09/2015 2:45:22 PM PST by Mariner

You may remember that a couple of months ago when it became clear that Donald Trump’s presidential campaign was more than just a momentary bit of entertainment, parts of the GOP swung into action. They found the idea of Trump becoming the Republican nominee horrifying, not just because of his imperfect commitment to conservative dogma, but because he’d be almost certain to lose, delivering the White House to a Democrat who would probably be Hillary Clinton.

So they huddled together to come up with a plan. “Top strategists for Trump’s rivals and some corporate and conservative interests are working with opposition researchers, messaging experts, and focus-group gurus to find some plausible scheme to end what has already become an enduring nightmare for much of the Republican establishment: Donald Trump, Front-Runner,” wrote Mark Halperin in September. Wall Street wrung its hands. Bill Kristol said that if Trump were the nominee, he’d support a third-party candidate. The Club for Growth dropped a million dollars into ads attacking Trump in Iowa. Anti-Trump super PACs were planned.

This campaign hasn’t amounted to much, probably because those insiders just couldn’t figure out how to take Trump on in an effective way. But the question today is this: Why aren’t they trying to do the same thing to Ben Carson?

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To: VanDeKoik; Mariner

Rubio’s support of amnesty finished him off.


21 posted on 11/09/2015 3:00:14 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Mariner

Yes, he truly has the wool pulled over the eyes of the evangelicals. They follow him like sheep and he mocks them, having nothing but contempt for their beliefs. I wonder what they would think if they knew he thinks all Sunday worshipers have the Mark of the Beast?

Religious issues aside, how can anyone call themselves Conservative and support Carson?


22 posted on 11/09/2015 3:00:37 PM PST by conservativejoy ( He supports, amnesty, guncontol,)
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To: VanDeKoik
Exactly. Carson is the Trump killer. Once Trump is out ... if their plans work which they won't ... then they can work on getting Bush to give his support to Rubio and waltz to the convention.

Or maybe it will be more like a Rumba or cha-cha-cha.

23 posted on 11/09/2015 3:01:14 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Mariner

my theory since i realized carson was really a favorite of the leftist gopes going way back. my guess that he was recruited from the dem party by the gope and gradually set up previous to this year. basically:

carson is the black jeb.

rubio is the hispanic jeb.

jeb is the white jeb.

they split up the clueless gop vote until all conservatives are taken out.


24 posted on 11/09/2015 3:01:19 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Mariner
Trump is a stimulant -- for some people an irritant.

He gets them going to the point where they'll do just about anything to be free of him.

Carson's a sedative. Even people who don't like him just want to curl up some place and have a nap.

25 posted on 11/09/2015 3:02:40 PM PST by x
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To: Mariner; stephenjohnbanker

Its not a correction. I merely saw...

THE OBVIOUS!!!

;)


26 posted on 11/09/2015 3:03:04 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - Embrace it)
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To: dadfly

Last I heard Trump took over the lead once again. Seems he is holding his own without destroying Carson who will self implode one of these days.


27 posted on 11/09/2015 3:03:39 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: conservativejoy

“Perhaps because the GOPe supports Amnesty and TPP and Carson is right in there with them.

As Onyx pointed out, TPP is 5500 pages long and Carson was on board within 24 hours of its release.”

I think you are exactly right.


28 posted on 11/09/2015 3:04:09 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Mariner
"His support is almost limited to the Evangelical do-gooders."

Load of crap. But people who mock evangelicals are usually full of crap.

The fact is Evangelicals have far greater choices than Carson.

Ever heard of Ted Cruz or even Mike Huckabee?

29 posted on 11/09/2015 3:04:26 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: VanDeKoik
"He is there to push a narrative that he has this massive support base, that is supposedly tied or beating Trump in the polls."

Plausible, maybe even likely.

30 posted on 11/09/2015 3:05:59 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner
The GOPe relies on the media to do their needed hatchets jobs.

I remember when Pat Buchanan came in first in one of the early primaries, I think it was 1996, I heard a lib reporter say: "I like Pat, I really do, but we are gonna have to take him out." And they did. The GOPe didn't want Pat hanging around because they preferred the loser Dole. Come to think of it I think they really didn't want to disturb Clinton's second term.

All the GOPe has to do is sit back and let the gaggle of leftist hyenas do their work for them.

Things are different this time around. I can feel it in ma bones.

31 posted on 11/09/2015 3:06:05 PM PST by Slyfox (Will no one rid us of this meddlesome president?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"Load of crap"

I, nor anybody else I know of, said that all, or even most evangelicals support Carson.

My contention is that what support he has is nearly limited to Evangelical do-gooders.

I believe the polls bear that out.

32 posted on 11/09/2015 3:10:15 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: conservativejoy

I don’t understand who these mysterious Carson supporters are.
If they were for Cruz, they would be showing up in the polls for Cruz.
If they were for Trump, they would be showing up for Trump.

It’s like they have parked their temporary support for Carson.
Maybe they are really Rubio or Bush supporters, hiding behind Carson
for the moment.

It is a mystery who these Carson supporters are.


33 posted on 11/09/2015 3:13:46 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: Mariner

Thinking from the totalitarian thug left - only acceptable candidates have the right to run. Or even speak.


34 posted on 11/09/2015 3:15:11 PM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Mariner

“My contention is that what support he has is nearly limited to Evangelical do-gooders.”

Leaving aside for a moment that what you said might (not) be true; I wonder what you have against evangelicals? There is an obvious note of contempt in your “do gooders” remarks.


35 posted on 11/09/2015 3:15:19 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: Mariner
Why aren’t Republicans trying to figure out how to take out Ben Carson?

Why are some conservatives trying to take out Ben Carson using BS nonsense from the left instead of real criticisms from the right?

36 posted on 11/09/2015 3:15:22 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: VanDeKoik

I think your analysis is astute.

I refuse to engage in all the hyenas attacking Carson but I think you’ve called it accurately.


37 posted on 11/09/2015 3:16:02 PM PST by miss marmelstein (I support Trump but refuse to engage in the lynching of Ben Carson.)
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To: tennmountainman
"Maybe they are really Rubio or Bush supporters, hiding behind Carson for the moment.

Not likely. A mass of voters does not hide their affinity.

No, they really like Carson, the gentle man, quiet and compassionate.

They are the "Compassionate Conservative" wing of the GOP.

38 posted on 11/09/2015 3:16:45 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: conservativejoy

good point


39 posted on 11/09/2015 3:18:08 PM PST by SteveH
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To: Mariner

That is as good of a guess, as any.


40 posted on 11/09/2015 3:18:42 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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