Posted on 11/09/2015 7:00:45 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush
"Any republican candidate who piles on Ben Carson when the leftist media is attacking him is a candidate I cannot support" - Mark Levin, 5:00 mark in this link.
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A lot of us who don't have Trump as our first choice HAVE been defending Trump againts attacks from the left.
And I'm pretty sure Levin has been defending Trump from the left too.
Levin is trying to make this about Trump and it’s not. It is about vetting a candidate that is running on his “life story”. If all Carson is bring to the table is a compelling life story then why is taking a close look at the truthfulness of that story a bad thing?
I have said, numerous times, that no, I do not support some of Carson's positions. I have stated that I support Cruz more than any other on a position by position basis. I have written several times that if Cruz is still in the race when it comes to TN, I will probably vote for him.
I am - I think - 99% behind just about any stand that the NRA takes. The only reason I don't say 100% is that I can't claim that I know or have read all of them. Have not even read anything that Carson has stated about gun control other than when he has voiced support for citizens owning guns to protect themselves from nut-jobs and the government. I'm sure you can supply a quote for me some time, and I will be sure to read it and investigate it.
Statehood for PR - no, I think that would be a big mistake.
Amnesty - no, I think amnesty would be an enormous mistake.
It is possible to disagree with a candidate on several positions, and that candidate not be your first or second choice, and still come out in defense of that candidate when he is being unfairly attacked. If your candidate ever becomes the front-runner, I hope you will remember what happened to Trump and Carson and how you were all too giddy to pile on. And, I know you will hope and pray that people like me will state our support of your candidate when he comes under fire for this kind of character assassination.
I have no problem supporting whomever the GOP nominates, and I have no problem with sharp elbows on real issues. Real issues like amnesty and gun control should be explored and GOP candidates vetted in a tough way.
I'm not trying to flame you, but seriously what the heck is wrong with some of you Trump supporters?
I can do a google search and find numerous articles where Levin defended Trump from attacks on the left.
Yet you whine that there is a double standard.
Is Levin blaming Trump for the attacks from the left on Carson?
Can you document this?
So nut up and complain to the moderator.
Did Levine ever say he would never support any GOP candidate that “pilled on” Trump when the media was going after Trump?
Now, when that was written in his book, should he have (or someone at the publisher) fully investigated that to make sure it was all technically sound and then re-written to be more precise and in-keeping with the technical aspects of what was "offered"? Sure. He probably did not envision running for President when he wrote it so he didn't think it would be parsed so severely and technically.
What is needed at present is to exclude everyone from this and focus on finding the truth. Eliminate everybody else—Trump, Cruz, and all the other candidates—and determine the truth. If Carson cannot stand the scrutiny, if his stories do not hold up, he must step aside. If they do, so be it. This is a rough business and we need someone who can not only take the heat but whose policies will be good for our nation.
I cannot support many of his ideas, but that is my preference.
He’s not supporting nor endorsing Carson for the GOP nomination. Levin is merely stating that this assassinations that are coordinated by the left wing liberals and the media need to be denounced by all candidates and conservatives. Any position about issues that Carson, Trump, or any other candidate is fair game. I doubt Levin will pull the lever for Carson in the GOP nomination process.
“Context explains all of this. It has been written like Carson has been fabricating and purporting things out of thin air. It is an assassination attempt, very similar to what happened to Clarence Thomas.”
No the truth explains it all.
In his autobiography, which was the basis of a movie about Carson’s life, Carson wrote that the dinner with Westmoreland took place after he “marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade.†May does not come before February and that’s when the general was in Detroit. He was in Washington DC for Memorial Day 1969.
Westmoreland’s Memorial Day schedule on May 30, 1969, indicates he was in Washington. The schedule says Westmoreland had a morning meeting with national security adviser Henry Kissinger, laid a wreath at an 11 a.m. memorial service in Arlington National Cemetery and had a 5 p.m. “boat ride on the Potomac.â€
You would think that before Carson mentioned in a book that he met with General William Westmreland he could have at least gotten his dates straight. He had no notes? He had no articles from the paper? From his “I love my house”, and the hundreds of certificates and photos of himself plastered all over the walls, I would think he’s never thrown away a piece of paper in his life that had his name on it.
I agree, and thanks for being reasonable. Believe it or not, I am not a Carson supporter. I align more to Cruz position-by-position. I just cannot stand the GOP piling on to these left-wing character assassinations. I also happen to believe Carson would make a formidable candidate opposed to Hillary or any other Democrat. There are others on this board that think I am nuts about that. We may never know, I guess.
>>But of course, it is okay to pile on Donald Trump under any circumstances, right?<<
No, it’s not all right, okay? You actually think that CNN couldn’t write a hundred similar hit pieces on Trump, if they wanted to? This stuff was made up about Dr. Carson. What have you seen CNN or Politico make up out of whole cloth about Trump’s past? Seriously.
The criticisms of Trump have been based on his history and his actual statements, unless of course you’re one of the few on the planet who didn’t think Trump was referring to Megyn Kelly’s menstrual cycle with his comment about her.
If the MSM wants to get down and dirty on Trump they will. A better question to ask is why they haven’t so far. Why Carson and not Trump? Carson supposedly has plenty of problems just from a policy point of view, so why not go after him on policy grounds instead. That would be legitimate. The problem is that when they’ve tried to do so, he gets to explain why a believer in sharia law shouldn’t be elected president and the MSM finds that everyone agrees with him....so they’ve decided to take the low road because the low road often works.
Rubio’s statement about the MSM being the Left’s superpac was dead on accurate and every GOP candidate should be repeating it ad nauseam until it starts to sink in.
“full government scholarship” — an ad from West Point some years ago
He defended him at the time, and I am sure that he will do the same next time something similar happens to Trump. I think it was a compilation of both what happened to Trump and what happened to Carson. Just my opinion, I may be wrong.
You are ridiculously nit-picking on this. If you hear both sides of this and are reasonable, you cannot believe that the facts support this kind of character assassination. Carson is probably guilty of not knowing that he should antiseptically scrub anything that he has ever thought, believed, or written, ever, even in passing mentioned through authenticity checks conducted by seasoned jot-and-tittlers like yourself. You got me there.
Levin has his own Barack Obama. Don’t examine the Black guy!
Fibbing about your past can get you into trouble, just ask Brian Williams. Carson also makes it sound like he and General Westmoreland sat down to have a quite dinner together. Is that what happened? West Point is one of the Nations most prestigious schools being “offered a slot at West Point” or Annapolis is a very big resume enhancer. That is a claim one should not make if not true.
Not a dimes worth of difference between what you just said and accusing somebody of being racist because they criticize Carson.
Sure, it can get you in trouble. But a reasoned look at the facts in context in this case proves nothing except that Carson has been consistent in his story about this all along and that he may have remembered certain details incorrectly about an event 20 years prior. The “resume enhancement” idea is silly, since the guy was accepted to Yale and came through the ranks to be the head of his department and Johns Hopkins and did thousands upon thousands of surgeries on children throughout his career. Did he ever put that above fact on a resume, btw? I doubt it. He was merely trying to make the point in the book about how resolute he was in becoming a Dr and going to Yale.
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