Posted on 11/06/2015 11:13:07 AM PST by springwater13
The next question is from Bill. He wanted to know if it was true that I was offered a slot at West Point after high school.
Bill, that is true. I was the highest student ROTC member in Detroit and was thrilled to get an offer from West Point. But I knew medicine is what I wanted to do. So I applied to only one school. (it was all the money I had). I applied to Yale and thank God they accepted me. I often wonder what might have happened had they said no.
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“It is not unreasonable to think that he has staffers handling his FB posts as he does with his Twitter feed. If so, the choice of words would be their mistake not his. He has never used those words himself that I can find.”
How ridiculous. Carson lied. Period.
Indeed, that is what many here have argued.
I think we all understand embellishment. For example, Carson claims he ate dinner with Gen. Westmoreland. Let say it was a 1500 seat, $10 a plate dinner. If Carson was one of those 1500 attendees, he could legitimately claim he ate dinner with the general. However, there’s a huge difference between sitting 10 or more tables away and maybe having a few words with the general versus sitting at the head table and having an in depth conversation with the general.
Embellishment typically involves relating events in the most favorable way and leaving things unsaid that a listener could interpret in a more favorable light. It’s deceptive, but it’s not necessarily a lie.
In regards to West Point, Carson claimed he was offered a full scholarship. Now his campaign is saying that was an outright falsehood, aka a lie.
Do you think that a teenager being encouraged by the eventual Army Chief of Staff to apply to West Point would know the difference? If Westy was making the pitch, Carson could have interpreted it as an offer....doesn’t mean that it was a formal offer. I’d view going to West Point as a scholarship, as it would mean that I didn’t have to pay the tuition. Parsing beyond this for a lay person becomes inside baseball.
"He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC Supervisors," Bennett added. "They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission." Carson would have needed to seek admission in order to receive an offer of free education from West Point. Also, according to West Point, there is no such thing as a "full scholarship" to the military academy, as Carson represented in his book.
- http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598
Carson's campaign has already admitted that what was written in the autobiography didn't actually happen the way he told it.
Hell, I want to know about why Clinton was fired from the Watergate investigation. All the media cares about is if she wears boxers or briefs.
Soon, his patients who brought law suit against him will come out. They are in queue.
Too funny. That's how I like my tequila too.
The “Army” as related by the MSM sychophants pulling a “quote”. The Army doesn’t know from 1970 with Westmoreland. He was in Detroit and met with JROTC and ROTC— it was a different time.. Lots of baby brain surgeries since those days, and not the “point and click” era, to require a down to the hour recollection. He didn’t want the military in his life- and few did in 1970 during Vietnam/Nixon. That IS a fact, thanks to the very same sniveling MSM. USNA 1947.
“Your wrong if you believe the Politico. And if you’re a grad lord help us!”
Then believe Carson’s own words on his Facebook post, where he lied through his teeth.
You are a dips**t if you somehow construed this as some how saying he was offered a scholarship or that he applied.
Dr Carson has never said he applied to WP. What he said is that he was introduced to representatives from WP and they encouraged him to apply.
Since WP does not charge tuition, you are actually joining the service, it is easy to see where even an extremely intelligent 18 year old from inner city Detroit would hear no tuition and think it equals a scholarship. Dr. Carson never said he applied to WP, saying he always wanted to go into medicine.
All of that is true. I’ve defended him on this today. I don’t take issue with anything he wrote in his books about this or any later re-tellings. I do take issue with this FB post. I have to know if he wrote it or his staffers wrote it. That is key to me.
Please, no spamming.
The fact that he used the word “scholarship” is the key to the whole fabrication. I don’t think he ever had a conversation with Westmoreland.
The army told me that I would go to a 9 month course and if I was chosen from the course I would go to West point. Not surprising a HS kid to think it was a offer to go to West point.
“The fact that he used the word “scholarship†is the key to the whole fabrication. I don’t think he ever had a conversation with Westmoreland.”
Bingo. Neither do I.
That’s exactly what I have argued today.
Maybe to a college with a Corps of Cadets and an ROTC program, but not to West Point (or the Naval Academy, Air Force, or even the Coast Guard Academy)
The entry process for the Service Academies is completely different from that of other colleges and universities.
I think the Facebook post is neutral to good for him as he only mentions “an offer” as opposed to a scholarship and made it clear he only applied to Yale. It is plausible that he meant the General and the MOH recipients assured him they could get him in.
The “Gifted Hands” quote would seem to be far more problematic as he mentioned acceptance and a scholarship.
That is good information.
I agree it is a which hunt by POLITICO. I’ve defended Carson all day on this. Now I have a question about this FB post. I need more data.
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