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Cockpit voice recorder confirms explosion on Russian plane that crashed in Egypt, according to....
France 24 ^ | 11-06-2015 | France24

Posted on 11/06/2015 9:20:43 AM PST by tcrlaf

Just breaking


TOPICS: Egypt; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 7k9268; airbusa321; crash; egypt; eritrea; flight9268; france; iran; isis; kgl9268; kogalymavia; metrojet; redsea; russia; scotlandyard; sharmelsheikh; sinai; sinaiplanecrash; stpetersburg; suezcanal; unitedkingdom; yemen
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To: Vince Ferrer

+1


41 posted on 11/06/2015 9:55:34 AM PST by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: tcrlaf

At this point, what difference does it make.


42 posted on 11/06/2015 9:57:07 AM PST by Eddie01 (Soul Finger by the Bar-Kays)
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To: INVAR

The Russian aircraft wings are not located near the tail as they are in the ISIS video. That video is either faked or of another incident.


43 posted on 11/06/2015 9:58:03 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: amorphous

“There are indeed reports of Russia moving tactical nukes to the M.E. “

Source?


44 posted on 11/06/2015 9:58:12 AM PST by wrench
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To: INVAR

Either way, Putin can’t let this lie.

And I’ll bet Obama&Co were glad the downed airplane not one of ours. ‘Cause people might demand some real action from that quarter .....


45 posted on 11/06/2015 9:58:14 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: rdl6989
Boomark

Interesting reminder for an explosion.

46 posted on 11/06/2015 9:58:36 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: tcrlaf

Co-pilot heard to remark “Oh, sh*t, that ISIS bomb over there is about to go off!”

Putin reprimands American intel officials for jumping to conclusions.

(/this is sarc....please DO NOT POST to news sites!)


47 posted on 11/06/2015 9:59:53 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: INVAR

That video shows a plane crashing intact, or at least the one I saw does. The plane in question came down in two major portions that ended up pretty far separated on the ground.


48 posted on 11/06/2015 10:00:28 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

I don’t buy that spin. Not for a second.

ISIS was shown to have possession of SA-7 AND SA-16 MANPADS - likely from Libya after Ghadaffi was overthrown. They can hit targets at 35,000 feet and the Russian Airbus was at 31,000 when it was shot down.

Also, SA-75 Dvina Soviet MANPAD can hit targets at 82,000 feet.

2K12 Kub / SA-6 Gainful - 45k feet, another Russian design - and some accounts have those being run out of Benghazi to “Syrian rebels”.


49 posted on 11/06/2015 10:01:33 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Satellite infrared shows a flash and a separation. It shows no missile launch r flight.


50 posted on 11/06/2015 10:02:04 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Sasparilla

Nor that fellow with a knife in Cali.


51 posted on 11/06/2015 10:02:49 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: SkyDancer

When the outside is so badly damaged that you can’t even make any connections, then you have to take the box apart and get directly to the memory modules, which are almost never damaged. The memory modules can then be read directly.

Don’t forget that there is also a third recorder that uses a ruggedized SD card. The QAR, Quick Access Recorder. if the SD card survived, it has a lot of data on it.


52 posted on 11/06/2015 10:03:33 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

Nuke ‘em from outer space.
It’s the only way to be sure!


53 posted on 11/06/2015 10:06:24 AM PST by Radagast the Fool (At my signal, UNLEASH PALIN!!)
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To: wrench
See below. Anonymous sources, of course:

In response to the purported downing of a Russian civilian airliner in the Sinai in Egypt, the Kremlin is now poised for a nuclear strike on sites controlled by the Islamic State. Citing its right to protect its people and interests in Russia and abroad, Intelligence officials have anonymously reported that Russia is moving its tactical nuclear units closer to its international boundaries and its frontier with other hotspots within Russia, such as the northern Caucasus region. The Russian military have been called up to help evacuate Russian nationals within these hotspots and have ordered non-essential civilians to leave Syria, Iraq, the Gulf states and other nations in the Arab world."

http://consciouslyenlightened.com/breaking-russian-nuclear-units-on-the-move-non-essential-civilians-told-to-leave-putins-ready-to-nuke-isis/

54 posted on 11/06/2015 10:07:42 AM PST by amorphous
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To: CivilWarBrewing; IYAS9YAS; arthurus; Longbow1969

I am of the opinion it was probably one of the many thousands of MANPADS that went missing out of Libya after Obama got Ghadaffi overthrown in his jump-start of the Global Caliphate (aka: Arab Spring). Russia has been doing what we have not in regards to laying waste to ISIS.

I think saying a bomb was planted is a lot easier for the regime to deflect responsibility than to suggest it was a SAM, because the panic-factor among the public is going to be a lot higher if it becomes known ISIS has capabilities to take out airliners from the ground.

Bottom line, regardless if a bomb or a missile, this was Jihad terrorism.

Something else Obama and his Jihadist-loving regime refuses to state.


55 posted on 11/06/2015 10:10:19 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: arthurus

LOl, I made a typo and didn’t even notice.


56 posted on 11/06/2015 10:11:33 AM PST by rdl6989
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To: ltc8k6

Just repeating what I read. It’ll be weeks before any ‘reliable’ information on the disaster will come out.


57 posted on 11/06/2015 10:13:59 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: INVAR; IYAS9YAS
While I still think this was caused by a bomb placed on board, the possibility of a missile isn't totally out of the realm of possibility. However 30,000' is about a mile higher than publicly available data on shoulder launched stinger missile range.

A post made on another thread:

Some variants have a range well over 20,000'.

Airliners can't stay in the air forever. They have to climb to cruising altitude and then descend back down.

For the sake of argument, let's allow for climb or descent rate of 2,000 FPM (Feet Per Minute), and airspeed of 250 MPH (aircraft will cover 4 miles every minute).

This allows a mobile terrorist equipped with one of these newer variants, to check with some web-based flight tracking system like maybe https://flightaware.com/, jump in his car and travel (10 minutes) to a point which intersects the aircraft's flightpath, up to 40 miles from the airport. Btw, the faster the aircraft's airspeed, the further from the airport the attack can take place.

The terrorist then exits the vehicle, acquires and brings down the airliner which would then be 10 minutes out and passing through 20,000' - a relatively slow moving non-evading target for a missile designed to strike a target traveling in excess of 800 mph in some cases.

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger, 70,000 missiles have been produced.

Theoretically, it could mean the end of "safe" air travel anywhere in the world as we currently enjoy it.

58 posted on 11/06/2015 10:16:08 AM PST by amorphous
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To: DiogenesLamp

I think I saw the pictures of the flight recorders at the Daily Mail. The story line was they were too heavily damaged and showed them all twisted up.


59 posted on 11/06/2015 10:16:16 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: PA Engineer

I think I saw the pictures of the flight recorders at the Daily Mail. The story line was they were too heavily damaged and showed them all twisted up.


60 posted on 11/06/2015 10:16:32 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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