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1 posted on 11/05/2015 5:08:08 PM PST by ForYourChildren
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It will be interesting to see how this plays out..


2 posted on 11/05/2015 5:08:16 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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Funny, I don’t see HuffPo getting all indignant about sanctuary cities flipping the bird to our immigration laws.


3 posted on 11/05/2015 5:11:09 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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The measure directs the sheriff to decide whether certain state and federal gun laws violate the Second Amendment. If he thinks they do, the county is then banned from using any resources to enforce those laws.

I fail to see the problem with this. If the sheriff deems a law 'unconstitutional' he is only prohibited from using RESOURCES to enforce said law.

Hell, Bammy does this everyday.

4 posted on 11/05/2015 5:12:14 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama = ISIS Fanboy)
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P.S. This is illegal.

So are so called sanctuary cities, HuffPo. What part of shall not infringe do you not understand?

5 posted on 11/05/2015 5:14:30 PM PST by RedMDer (Support Free Republic and Keep FReedom ALIVE!)
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Just call them “sanctuary gun Rights” and then all is alright!
7 posted on 11/05/2015 5:18:04 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN DIV. 1/508th BN Alfa Team Leader 2nd civil war is coming to the USA)
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The Huffpo learns that ignoring laws you don’t like can be a double-edged sword.


8 posted on 11/05/2015 5:21:03 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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Less illegal than SANCTUARY CITIES. DISOBEDIENCE TO TYRANTS IS OBEDIENCE TO GOD!


9 posted on 11/05/2015 5:24:27 PM PST by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
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A lot of Oregon’s Counties had similar edicts passed by their County Commissioners. Coos has a couple of weasels, so this was done by petition, pretty much as a stick in their eyes.


21 posted on 11/05/2015 5:52:24 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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Each and every one of us can decide. And it’s time we started.


24 posted on 11/05/2015 6:01:31 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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CO sheriffs said they wouldn’t enforce any more gun control laws.
This is even better!


25 posted on 11/05/2015 6:26:37 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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”The measure directs the sheriff to decide whether certain state and federal gun laws violate the Second Amendment.”

Even if federal gun laws do not violate 2nd Amendment (2A), I hope that the sheriff understands the following. The sheriff has got to find specific constitutional clauses that are clearly delegations of specific power that Congress needs to justify a given federal gun law. And the only clause that comes close to relates to an express delegation of power for the feds to justfy gun laws imo, is Clause 16 of Section 8 of Article I, that clause concerned with arming state militias.

In fact, note that the Militia Acts of 1792, such acts examples of early federal gun laws, the acts actually requiring citizens to supply their own guns (BYOG).

But it is also disturbing to note that federal laws for regulating civilian firearms seem to have started appearing in the books during the time Constitution-ignoring FDR, FDR and his corrupt Congress infamous for making laws which blatatantly ignored the federal governments constitutionally limited powers.

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control

Regarding state gun laws, since the Founding States had originally decided that the states did not have to respect the rights protected by the Bill of Rights, I surmise that the states did not have to respect 2A protections (corrections welcome).

However, the congressional record shows that John Bingham, the main author of the 14th Amendment (14A), that amendment ratified under very questionable circumstances, had clarified that 14A did apply 2A to the states (see middle of middle column).

So whereas the states arguably had the 10th Amendment (10A)-protected power to regulate firearms, citizens having the 2A and 10A-protected power to bear arms as well, our pioneering ancestors arguably armed whenever they left their homes, I am not sure where the line of demarcation between states and citizens should be with respect to states regulating guns.

Note that Justice Reed had explained that it is the job of Constitution-respecting judges to balance between 10A-protected state powers and 14A-protected rights, rights that the states have amended the Constitution to expressly protect.

"Conflicts in the exercise of rights arise and the conflicting forces seek adjustments in the courts, as do these parties, claiming on the one side the freedom of religion, speech and the press, guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment, and on the other the right to employ the sovereign power explicitly reserved to the State by the Tenth Amendment to ensure orderly living without which constitutional guarantees of civil liberties would be a mockery." --Justice Reed, Jones v. City of Opelika, 1942.

Again, I am not sure where the line of demarcation should be between states and citizens where 2A rights are concerned. Insights welcome.

33 posted on 11/05/2015 7:28:06 PM PST by Amendment10
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The 2nd Amendment Preservation Ordinance passed with 61 percent of the vote. The measure directs the sheriff to decide whether certain state and federal gun laws violate the Second Amendment. If he thinks they do, the county is then banned from using any resources to enforce those laws. Any county employee who violates the ordinance will be fined $2,000.

Very clever. This is the exact tactic used by states to prevent the return of fugitive slaves. When the Federal courts ruled that states could not be compelled to enforce Federal Laws, they passed laws forbidding state officials from enforcing the fugitive slave laws.

This puts the courts in a funny position. Because this so closely resembles the tactic used to stop the enforcement of fugitive slave laws, if the court says this tactic is invalid, they would have to legally invalidate what happened with the fugitive slaves.

I predict they will be loath to condemn this methodology because of it's prior history. No one wants to be seen as saying the fugitive slave laws should have been enforced.

35 posted on 11/05/2015 9:03:47 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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The Supreme Court has ruled that the federal government cannot force Sheriffs to expend resources to enforce federal law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/12/28/states-dont-have-to-comply-the-anti-comandeering-doctrine/

It is called the Anti-Commandeering Doctrine.

The Huffington Post is just wrong on this. So, what else is new.

There is considerable precedent for local and state governments refusing to use resources to enforce federal law.


38 posted on 11/06/2015 12:47:43 AM PST by marktwain
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