Posted on 11/04/2015 5:26:14 PM PST by Mechanicos
As Republican presidential candidates crisscross the nation to win key GOP strongholds, an analysis of the party’s own delegate rules reveals that Blue State Republicans have vast power to pick the party nominee.
That’s good news for pragmatic, moderate Republicans such as a Jeb Bush, but not for conservative or religious candidates, such as Ben Carson. It also means that the eventual nominee could be very different from the leader in national polls because a candidate getting a few votes in the right (moderate) places can get as many if not more delegates than a candidate getting more votes in a conservative area. .... http://www.westernjournalism.com/this-bizarre-rule-in-the-gop-primaries-could-doom-some-major-frontrunners/
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I've often advocated that states start with no more delegates than electoral votes. This would be about 1/5th of the delegates awarded. The next 1/5th would be awarded on the basis of numbers of congressman, senators, state legislatures, governors, etc. The final 3/5th would be based on electoral votes cast for the GOP in November during the last half dozen or so election cycles.
Yes, technically, this formula could mean that a small state like Wyoming could gt more delegates than one like Massachusetts. Unfair, you say? I'd agree, but unfair to Wyoming which consistently delivers three electoral votes to the GOP every cycle to zero for Massachusetts.
Want more delegates? Then deliver in November or, if you are split personality state like us in Pennsylvania, then split up your electoral votes like they do in Maine and Nebraska.
IIRC, this was also a problem in 1952, with regard to Repub delegates from southern states that were solidly Democrat at the time.
I think it was key to Eisenhower getting the nomination away from Taft. There was a big floor fight over it at the convention.
Henry Cabot Lodge II was instrumental in it, and later boasted in Vietnam (where he was ambassador) that he had no problem with rigging elections there, since he'd done it in the US.
Meanwhile, we are stuck with a crowd who bitches about Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney and whoever is the RINO flavor of the cycle and have done NO MAJOR RULE CHANGES in the direction which I just suggested.
I’m not upset about 1952. I think Eisenhower was a good president.
Interesting history is all.
Often times it’s better to have a real democrat than a fake republican. Fake republican’s are hard to get rid of and they sap strength from the party. There was no way whatsoever I was ever going to vote for John McCain. So I wrote in a candidate. Problem solved, I voted for neither McCain nor Obama in either real or [your] imagined vote.
You're a fool if you think there was an "anti-Obama" candidate.
Like I said, I voted for Thomas Jefferson. It was YOU who voted for some liberal guy! If you honestly think I'm to blame for the Kenyan's second term, you're ignorant. The Takers are to blame and you just can't admit it.
(Also, I'm in TX. Don't blame your Republican failure on me!) When a Conservative runs, they'll get my vote. You can keep handing your vote out like candy. We can see where that gets us...
GOP-e is at it again. It will be a selection, not an election.
what dreck!
It is as close as an American can come to voting "None of the above."--and nothing else.
Nobama was reelected by fraud.
PING!
“Point being the process is rigged to insure that the candidate considered most palatable by the political class is selected.”
The last time they failed was with Reagan. Even then they
shoved a Bush down our throat. They are not going to let that
happen again. Their most important qualification is that
they control the candidate and the most popular way is
to only allow the ones who are easily or already
compromised. Nowadays with the system becoming more perverted
by the day it’s getting pretty easy to tell who is compromised and controlled.
Remember that Trump agreed to “toe the line” with the Republican RINOe leadership as long as THEY WERE FAIR TO HIM.
This definitely “not fair” isn’t it? I think he is well aware of this and already has his legal team ready to pounce on the GOP when they don’t choose him as their candidate for President......WHICH THEY WILL CERTAINLY DO. THE “FIX” IS ALREADY IN!
He is no fool and expects this to happen and has planned for it.
Yes. Unfortunately this knowledge doesn’t do us much good given the pervasiveness.
The logical approach is not to participate in the electoral farce. Instead we should be working outside the political realm doing things that will implement conservative ideas and values.
Yep! That “real democrat” you helped elect and probably reelect sure was better.
Even McLame would have been Night and Day better than nobama!
America thanks you.........
It was obvious that after the election, the sit at home or as you say voted for a 200 year dead President, were in hiding.
Now that years have past, somehow you think we forget who you handed America to on a silver platter and so its OK to stick your purist heads back up? Wrong! You failed our dear America when she needed you most.
He has a huge army of supporters left over from his terms as governor, all hoping for more patronage and perks. They must be driving his candidacy. I don’t know anyone else who supports him.
If Trump starts racking up 50%+ wins in states and the RNC tries to deny him, there will be trouble.
People should lay off the “open primaries” issue. The GOP can’t change state laws on that. Furthermore, New York already has closed primaries, but a NY district is highlighted in the article as an example of the anti-conservative bias in the rules.
The bias comes from the delegate allocation rules, which the GOP could change — if it wanted to be fair to conservatives.
We will not lay off the Open Primary issue. We are guaranteed a Republican form of Government. If the GOP is going to represent us as a party then we want what we are supposed to have; not democrats in heavy vote fraud states (Which the GOP agreed in settlement to not investigate) picking our candidates for us.
Yep winner take all, versus CD winner, etc. States make their own choice of how to allot
their delegates.
If anyone is interested in how their state allots the delegates here is a good layout.
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/R-Alloc.phtml
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