Posted on 11/04/2015 5:26:14 PM PST by Mechanicos
As Republican presidential candidates crisscross the nation to win key GOP strongholds, an analysis of the party’s own delegate rules reveals that Blue State Republicans have vast power to pick the party nominee.
That’s good news for pragmatic, moderate Republicans such as a Jeb Bush, but not for conservative or religious candidates, such as Ben Carson. It also means that the eventual nominee could be very different from the leader in national polls because a candidate getting a few votes in the right (moderate) places can get as many if not more delegates than a candidate getting more votes in a conservative area. .... http://www.westernjournalism.com/this-bizarre-rule-in-the-gop-primaries-could-doom-some-major-frontrunners/
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The only explanation for Pataki that I can think of.
I have known for years that to insist on holding both Iowa and New Hampshire caucuses/primaries unfairly skews the primaries of the states as neither of these two states is representative of the 48 other states, Iowa open caucus and New Hampshire open primary where democrats can cross the line and vote the GOP ticket but even then, they do not represent the 48 other states.
If blacks cared to make a point, they are definitely disproportionately misrepresented in both states, where especially in New Hampshire, one could travel from town to town and never see a black person. In Iowa, when much of the state is farming, it is rare to find blacks except for the university communities and the state capitol where government workers enjoy a much higher representation of minorities.
But, back to your point, GOP delegates are pledged to follow the primary vote, which in many states are "winner take all" but a large percentage have been moved to the proportional votes.
In Kansas, for instance with four (4) districts, the delegates were divided in each district according to the largest vote tally, then distributed according to the total votes, or no winner take all.
Last time, with Mitt Romney becoming the final candidate, won no district at all in Kansas. The highest he came in any district was third!!!
Mitt didn't win in Iowa either yet the total count because of that winner take all rule, gave him the highest number of delegates.
The GOP continues to play those games and because of that and also because they are not about to allow the person most of the voters want, they rig the total by deciding that the delegate rich states go with the winner take all.
Except for that rule no way could John McCain ever have been elected as the primary winner, dittos, Bob Dole!!!
WTH? It just never ends.
The simpler explanation for Pataki is that he’s trying to up his profile for a cabinet position, or maybe his lobbying work.
The GOPe and its globalist donors have no intention of uniting the party.
And Democrats ARE international globalist communists, so they have no interest in ‘the common man’ they talk about.
It may be that the entire nation will have to do a write in. Frankly, with the Soros-owned, Venezuelan-manufactured voting machines, that might not be such a bad idea. I’d volunteer to count ballots.
Could be.
But how does his running make him any friends is what I ask myself.
Time for Trump to pull out his wallet and file a lawsuit against the RNC. Sue their asses for $100 Million.
“pragmatic, moderate Republicans” = lying, cringing, sold-out, PC, DC insider GOP establishment scum bought and paid for by the plutocrats and oligarchs and who continuously stab we American workers in the back and who’ve done NOTHING to stop a single iota of Obama’s Fabian socialist, U.S.A-destroying agenda.
So, GOPe, nominate one of those by hook and crook and see what happens! Apparently the GOPe is so stupid that they do not appear to understand that any establishment candidate they might squeak through the primaries will lose in a landslide because they terminally pissed off 40% of their base, but also that they will lose the down-tickets across the board, including Congress, the Governors, and the State houses, because the base WILL stay home.
Yes, I know the money-people behind the GOPe won’t care because they’ve simply bought ALL the politicians on both sides of the aisle anyway, so THEY can’t lose no matter what happens, but you’d think that GOPe party apparatus and their other candidates WOULD care about losing. Perhaps the GOPe REALLY is the stupid party, after all.
Note to GOP establishment leadership: you have been warned. If one of your precious lying, cringing, sold-out, PC, DC insider GOP establishment scum who continuously stabs we American workers in the back is nominated, I promise you ARE going to lose and lose big time. In case you haven’t noticed, the great unwashed masses of your “base are in open revolt.
We elected you to majorities in both houses of Congress and you’ve done NOTHING to stop a single iota of Obama’s kommie, U.S.A-destroying agenda. Instead, all you’ve done is make excuses, pretended you were powerless when you were simply too frightened to wield your power and conducted kabuki theater which you thought was fooling us.
Well, we DO actually know better. And if you want to take the whole party down in flames, why, we’ll be glad to help, because what you have now deserves to go down in flames, either with Trump or without him.
If the GOP Establishment pulls this off, Trump needs to run as an Independent.
Winner takes all.
Manifest delusion.
Trump will win the nomination on the first ballot.
He will win both NY and CA along the way. Probably FLA and maybe even Texas.
Those 4 alone would be nearly enough for the nomination.
On the first ballot.
If someone with 4% popularity can win the nomination because of party rules, it’s time to rule the party out.
No I voted for Romney.
But at this point I could care less if her or Jeb won. I am feed up with the party and would switch to a better party in less than a minute. You would think they would have gotten the message in about 2004 when I sent their donation letter back and told them to close the border.
At this point I feel it would be better if some dems won to flush the RINOs out.
No amount of badgering by people who would vote for RINOs will change my mind now. In other words if they are not conservative I will not vote. End of argument unless you want me to repeat this again.
I didn't vote for Romney, so I guess by your logic, I voted for Obama. I guess it's ok though, because I didn't vote for Obama either, so I guess that was a vote for Romney (it all balanced out, right?)
Just curious -- if it was Hillery vs Obama, which "lesser evil" would you vote for?
by the way, I wrote I Thomas Jefferson, so I didn't just stay home)
Yes, the system does over-represent moderates in the delegate counts for both parties. But it has never resuscitated a 5th place candidate polling under 5% in November. ALL that Jeb does staying is peel away moderate votes that would otherwise go to Rubio (or possibly Carson giving their shared immigration views). Trump, Carson AND Rubio would all need to self-destruct for Jeb to be back in the game.
If it is rigged I guess Hillary wins
No, nobama was re-elected by 4 million sitting at home (like you, refused to vote for the anti-nobama candidate) and 3% cheat vote in FLA and Ohio.
Thanks for giving us the last pisser 4 years!
“In other words if they are not conservative I will not vote.”
I’m not voting for Trump because he is a Conservative or a Independent, or for that matter a liberal, I support Trump because to me he is an AMERICAN! He doesn’t take crap from anyone, that’s what AMERICANS do..... :)
That's not how the election law in New Hampshire works. Democrats cannot vote a Republican primary ballot. However, people that are not registered in either party can choose which party to join on election day. So both first time voters and the many people who register as undeclared voters can pick which party's ballot they want to vote on at the primary.
Undeclared voters tend to pick the ballot of the party which has the most interesting contests, so in a situation where one party doesn't have a real contested race the undeclared voters will join in an skew the results. Since the Democratic party tends to manage their primaries carefully to not really have more than one serious candidate the undeclared voters end up voting in the Republican primary.
In this election cycle, if Sanders is an actual challenge to Hillary Clinton in the primary I would expect to see a lot of undeclared but liberal leaning voters grab Democratic primary ballots.
I like how they reveal the fact that Rubio is more in line with LIBERALS! That’s a “see, I told you so” moment.
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