Posted on 11/01/2015 9:35:26 PM PST by NRx
I had seen the game last night and thought that Harvey made the mistake going back on. He looked like he was tired and for that, the Royals put to work their A game.
“Yankees Suck! Yankees Suck! Yankees Suck!”
After the SUX win 27 World Series we can talk about who sucks.
Saw very brief this morning before turning off the tv George Brett in the viewing stands. He must have been thrilled.
please- if Duda makes a simple throw from first to home plate, game 5 is over...Collins has made some surprising decisions but the Mets would be nowhere without the guy..
Harvey was throwing smoke and his pitch count was low, no reason for him not to take the mound in the 9th...
funny thing is people whine about how fragile pitchers are these days, can’t finish games, pitch only 7 innings, etc...Harvey’s motoring along, pitching well and now he, Collins and the Mets will be criticized because he took the mound in the 9th- ridiculous.
“I had seen the game last night and thought that Harvey made the mistake going back on. He looked like he was tired and for that, the Royals put to work their A game.”
Really? To me Harvey looked really pumped up at that point.
It’s my Cubs turn next year!
he didn’t looked tired at all- quite the contrary- he was to amped up...
Maybe he was pumped because I heard the fans call out his name a lot and that is from a small tv.
Even if the game had ended, the fact is that Harvey never should have been allowed to pitch the 9th inning. Collins knew this, which is why he was going to replace him.
He let Harvey talk him out of it.
When Harvey went out to the mound, the Mets had a 2-0 lead. He didn't get anyone out ... walking the first batter and giving up an RBI double to the second batter. When he left the game, the Royals had the tying run on second base and nobody out.
This is a perfect illustration of why no manager should ever let his players make decisions for him.
The Mets never belonged. The current system allows a 98-win team, such as the Pirates, who played in probably the best division in baseball, to get bounced in a one-game play-in game.
Meanwhile, the Mets, who won only 90 games despite playing 54 of their regular season games against the Phillies, Braves and Marlins, got to have a playoff full series against the Dodgers.
Besides pitching, errors, etc. another important factor in the Met’s loss is their inability stop KC from base stealing. Any single immediately became a double, putting a man in scoring position. It was ridiculous.
And remember that it was Matt Harvey himself who publicly stated in September that he wasn't supposed to pitch more than 180 innings this season after his elbow surgery last year. If my information is correct, he was going out there in the 9th to pitch his 215th inning in 2015. In this particular case I'd never give a manager grief for pulling a pitcher after eight innings no matter how strong the guy looks.
i’m not missing any point- Harvey was pitching well and there was absolutely NO reason for him not to take the mound in the 9th....people will talk about this ad naseum and they’re wrong..even on the double, Conforto misplayed the ball in left field- not Collins fault...Duda makes a simple throw to home plate and the game’s over- not Collins fault..
the one play Collins should be faulted on was letting Cespides finish the at bat after hitting himself in the knee with the foul ball..he was hobbling around and was not the same player...all the Mets needed was a flyball to the outfield and they would’ve scored two runs in the inning rather than one...
Congrats!
I knew KC was assured of the win when they went up 2-0.
1000% WRONG- Harvey said nothing to the extent- it was his agent Scott Boras who stirred the crap pot and put it out there that the surgeon said Harvey’s max was 180 innings...
“Even if the game had ended, the fact is that Harvey never should have been allowed to pitch the 9th inning. Collins knew this, which is why he was going to replace him.”
Your argument would be stronger if the relievers didnt get pounded after Harvey was taken out.
The last Royals game I attended was three rows behind the Royals dugout with George playing 3rd base.”
Long time ago. We had season tickets but they were down the third base side. Those were the days! Always loved the two stadium concept with no roof over either one. Just a great area. Winning the World Series couldn’t have happened to a better team unless it was the Astros. LOL.
True Championship teams find a way to get past such things.
Tigers surprised that year, were the best team most of the season but were only average heading into the playoffs. Knocking off the Yankees pumped them back up, then a walk-off HR and sweep against the A's to send then to the World Series...then the wait.
Cardinals got healthy and hot right at the the end of the season, finished only about 5 games above .500, but were the best when it counted.
Royals rolled wire-to-wire and were determined to finish the job this year...have to admire a "team" like that.
As a Tigers fan we've been hearing about the up-and-coming Royals(division foe)for the last few years, that may have played a role in Mr. I(Tigers owner)spending the $$$ the way he did to to try to win ASAP. They've now become the Phillies, stuck with a high-payroll...mostly on guys past their prime, along with a depleted farm system to get them. Unfortunately they(Tigers)are not an organization like the Cardinals, etc. who simply reload, making them contenders year after year.
No, Tigers ownership simply went all-in....and lost.
They'll now be stuck in the mud for 3-5 more years, and then a re-build process...which tends to last for decades around these parts.
Weird Al is one of the smartest people on the planet.
I’m pretty sure it’s Tim Robbins.
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