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Government pressure for Apple to bypass iPhone encryption reduced as owner enters guilty plea
PCWorld ^ | October 30, 2015 | By John Ribeiro

Posted on 10/30/2015 11:33:50 PM PDT by Swordmaker

The development removes pressure on a New York court for an expedited decision on the dispute

Jun Feng, a defendant in a criminal case, has entered a guilty plea, removing pressure from a New York court to decide quickly whether Apple is required to aid investigators by bypassing his iPhone 5s passcode.

Feng had been indicted on three counts related to the possession and distribution of methamphetamine. The U.S. Department of Justice had asked the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York for an expedited decision so as to secure evidence in a trial scheduled to begin on Nov. 16.

But on Thursday, DOJ informed the court that Feng has entered a guilty plea. “The government persists in the application pending before the Court, but in view of the guilty plea, no longer requests expedited treatment,” U.S. Attorney Robert L. Capers wrote in a letter to Magistrate Judge James Orenstein.

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1 posted on 10/30/2015 11:33:50 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker

I thought Apple said it was impossible to crack without the owners password? How can they be litigating to “require” Apple to do something that’s not possible?


2 posted on 10/30/2015 11:38:48 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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3 posted on 10/30/2015 11:39:36 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Still Thinking
I thought Apple said it was impossible to crack without the owners password? How can they be litigating to “require” Apple to do something that’s not possible?

It is on devices running iOS 8 or above, but in this particular case, the iPhone in question was running iOS 7. Apple can unlock some data on that version, but only specific things. Apple was refusing, holding that it was not their data to reveal.

4 posted on 10/30/2015 11:41:53 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Ah. Thanks for clarifying.


5 posted on 10/30/2015 11:43:17 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Swordmaker

He had a 5S which does not have TouchID. So he is using the four digit code to unlock it. Is this a case where the TouchID print scanner is less secure than the code? I’d think with the code it’s just in his head, so they can’t press his finger on it to unlock it.


6 posted on 10/30/2015 11:45:53 PM PDT by Squeako (It's a Cult of Personality and it's gonna be huge...a huge missed opportunity to vote conservative.)
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To: Swordmaker

I am pleased that Apple is taking such a strong stand on this.


7 posted on 10/31/2015 12:08:07 AM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz REMAINS the only true Conservative in this race. ~~ just livin' life~~)
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To: Squeako
He had a 5S which does not have TouchID. So he is using the four digit code to unlock it. Is this a case where the TouchID print scanner is less secure than the code? I’d think with the code it’s just in his head, so they can’t press his finger on it to unlock it.

The IPhone 5S is a TouchID enabled phone. If it's been out of his custody for more than 48 hours if it's an iPhone with a TouchID system, it will still require use of a passcode to get in. . . but I seem to recall that it's not a TouchID enabled iPhone, it's either an iPhone 5 or a 4S. It's also possible, being a drug dealer, he's turned on complex passcode, and he's using an alphanumeric passcode which can be up to 256 characters in length, but I doubt it.

8 posted on 10/31/2015 12:22:25 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Ah it was the 5C that didn’t have it. Interesting I didn’t know about the 48 hour feature. It would be neat to be able to have it wipe the phone if the wrong finger is used to try to unlock it.


9 posted on 10/31/2015 1:10:51 AM PDT by Squeako (It's a Cult of Personality and it's gonna be huge...a huge missed opportunity to vote conservative.)
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To: Squeako; Swordmaker

I have a 5s and if I don’t use it for 48 hours it requires my passcode.

With only a 4 digit passcode I would think that it could be easily bypassed since I don’t think touch is required once you input the 4 digit code.

Sword maker, correct me if I am wrong. (which I hope I am)


10 posted on 10/31/2015 8:24:23 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Gator113

>>Government pressure for Apple to bypass iPhone encryption reduced

... until the next time.


11 posted on 10/31/2015 12:21:31 PM PDT by generally
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
With only a 4 digit passcode I would think that it could be easily bypassed since I don’t think touch is required once you input the 4 digit code.

If you input five incorrect passcodes the phone locks completely and will require being unlocked by using your AppleID and a code being sent from Apple. You can also set it to wipe the iPhone complete after a certain number of incorrect codes being input, or the user himself can remotely wipe the iPhone from his AppleID on any computer. To do a remote wipe, the iPhone has to be turned on. But if the person who has it turns it off, then the next time it is turned on requires the passcode to gain access.

12 posted on 10/31/2015 12:55:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Squeako
Ah it was the 5C that didn’t have it. Interesting I didn’t know about the 48 hour feature. It would be neat to be able to have it wipe the phone if the wrong finger is used to try to unlock it.

What I would like is the option to use your middle finger (give it the bird, so to speak) which instead of wiping it, then requires the passcode on the next attempt to open instead of working with any finger. That way an owner could instantly lockout TouchID if stopped or arrested. . . no possibility of being forced to use his finger to unlock it against his will.

13 posted on 10/31/2015 1:00:01 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: generally
>>Government pressure for Apple to bypass iPhone encryption reduced ... until the next time.

This is a good wake up call for everyone still on iOS7—about 8% of iOS users—to upgrade to iOS 8 or above.

It's also a wake up call for anyone not on an Apple iPhone to get one. The authorities have tools to get into every other operating system except un-jailbroken Apple iOS provided by The Hacker Team, a company dedicated to selling such tools to law enforcement and provides them to the NSA, CIA, FBI, MI6, the Surete', and every police department in the world. The Hacker Team is currently offering a bounty of $1 million for any one who finds a hack that can get them into a locked iOS device that does not depend on the cooperation of the user. . .

14 posted on 10/31/2015 1:14:23 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

I’m on ver 3.1.2,think I’m safe?


15 posted on 10/31/2015 1:17:55 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: Swordmaker
a wake up call for anyone not on an Apple iPhone to get one

What if you want a physical keyboard?

I can only be productive with a PKB.

16 posted on 10/31/2015 1:22:41 PM PDT by Praxeologue ( ')
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To: Praxeologue
What if you want a physical keyboard?

I can only be productive with a PKB.

Easy:

Best iPhone keyboard cases

17 posted on 10/31/2015 1:31:28 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: crosdaddy
I’m on ver 3.1.2,think I’m safe?

Nope.

18 posted on 10/31/2015 1:32:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Crap,I was hoping having old s@it made fly under the radar


19 posted on 10/31/2015 1:33:57 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: Swordmaker
What if you want a physical keyboard?

I can only be productive with a PKB.

Easy:

Best iPhone keyboard cases

Thanks for the link,

I read the Amazon reviews for these. They don't work very well. I am surprised that no one has come up with a good product rivaling the quality of a Blackberry keyboard.

I remain with Blackberry because I can be productive and the PKB is the main reason for that. It is not intransigence on my part. I used an iPhone 5s for a month last year and previously a Samsung. I regularly compare notes with others. The Blackberry PKB enables speed and accuracy much greater than others. I actually was hoping that you could convince me otherwise.

Maybe next year!

20 posted on 10/31/2015 2:23:31 PM PDT by Praxeologue ( ')
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