Posted on 10/30/2015 6:38:02 PM PDT by thetallguy24
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)79% told a nationwide audience in Wednesday’s CNBC Republican presidential debate that companies are importing foreign graduates because American college grads just can’t do the work.
The claim came when CNBC’s John Hardwood asked Rubio if he was undercutting American professionals by supporting a bill to let companies import more foreign temporary H-1B “guest workers†for white-collar jobs. Rubio evaded the question by blaming Americans’ supposed lack of skills.
“We need to get back to training people in this country to do the jobs of the 21st century… The best way to close this gap is to modernize higher education so Americans have the skills for those jobs,†Rubio claimed. The “ideal scenario is to train Americans to do the work, so we don’t have to rely on people from abroad,†Rubio declared.
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Somebody check college degree and verify their resume. 80% are fraud.
The talk show hosts like Levin and Beck say a lot of nice things about Marco. God Bless Mark and Glenn, but I don’t agree with them.
Rubio is unacceptable and if Jeb falls down and out (its seems like that right now), the Establishment money will go straight to Marco.
And they deserve priority over an AMERICAN citizen?!? BIOYSA RUBIO!!!
Excellent question Fungi!
Ping to ziravan. Can you answer this question?
Cruz and/or Trump need to make a campaign promise that if elected, they will use their pen and phone to write an executive order requiring that no Xenos will be hired before qualified Americans. Put Americans First!
as a software professional for 30+ years that has run multiple corporations, both in the US and international, i can tell you the qualifications of new grads, no matter the origin, is about the same worldwide.
of course, they aren’t talking about equally qualified developers. usually, they’re trying to push mid level devs into entry level positions in the US.
if you’re a new grad and you can’t get into the field, because the entry level jobs have been taken by foreigners, it’s very difficult to start your career.
politicians doing what they can to give those jobs away really doesn’t help.
I really dislike this weasel.
Hire kids fresh out of college with salaries not too different from the employees nearing retirement. Work the kids into the ground until they’re disgruntled and quit. Replace them with new grads or foreign nationals. Eventually the only technical expertise left is resident in the temporary contract engineers. Is that how it works?
Any chance we can replace Rubio with an H-1B?
That’s the funniest thing I have ever read....Hasn’t been true since the 70s
don’t worry. the two-faced, backstabbing, gope amnesty shill or if you prefer, the lying speaker of spanish out of one side of his mouth and english out the other, is unelectable.
he won’t be president under any circumstances. true conservatives will not vote for him.
I can see we don't have to worry about checking your "degree".
Why are you pinging me? I haven’t posted in this thread, I answered that question as a speculation in the thread you refer to and I have taken no position on H1Bs except to speculate that the Orlando market probably has more theme park IT needs than people living there or willing to relocate there.
My principle point wasn’t about H1Bs at all. I will say that to the extent we bring in people legally, we should be looking at people who have something to bring to our economy. I’m an RN and I’ve worked with numerous H1Bs over the years, usually Filipino or Canadian, but that’s a different story because I was never replaced by one.
I don’t really care about H1Bs. Eliminate them for all I care.
That wasn’t my point in your cross thread reference.
My point was that Disney IT has sucked for years. Their whole IT department seriously needed to be replaced. Being an American doesn’t entitle you to a job even if you suck at it. That was my only point.
and of course Rubio is right again...you’re welcome.
And from my 28 years in IT and technology, when they go back to India, your company will have to hire the American workers it laid off and pay them the exorbitant rate that consultants require...to fix the crappy quality of work from those cheaper-to-employee Indians.
And don’t forget, those Indian workers have room and board subsidized by their offshoring company, which in turn receives subsidies from the Indian government.
I can compete with anyone. But I can’t compete with a foreign government.
If Rubio were to be elected, as unlikely as that seems now, he would be only the second reputed president not born to parents who were citizens when he was born, after Obama. Chester Arthur, Garfield’s vice president, was born to an Irish father, but Chester managed to keep that fact hidden, using such means as having his personal papers burned, having a confederate suggest that he might have been born in Canada or Ireland. All the attention was directed toward where he was born, not, in his case, Kenya, while he always had and concealed his birth records from Vermont.
But Rubio’s comment, which I haven’t seen in its entirety, has some merit. I know, from major graduate programs in mathematics, statistics and probability, and physics, that admitted foreign students are from one to two years ahead of U.S.0 educated students. They do their graduate work at our both public institutions, and at our heavily tax-subsidized private schools such as Stanford, Cal Tech, and MIT, Princeton, Harvard, and then face a struggle to find a corporate sponsor so that they might stay in the U.S.
A remarkable population economist, Julian Simon wrote a controversial book, The Ultimate Resource, which so stirred up the Marxists at Berkeley and Stanford including Obama Science Advisor John Holdren, the perennially wrong Zero Growth Paul Ehrlich and his ACLU wife, and several other of their comrades from Berkeley. Cutting to the chase, there is no depletion of resources. Humans and our brains have found economic substitutes for such limited resources as whale oil. Keeping the best educated in the U.S., particularly while we still have enough advantages in personal freedoms to attract them, is simply to our advantage.
Our politicians, from both parties, see illegal immigrants as the formula to guarantee jobs for social service employees, and possibly as increased vote counts, if you believe our auditable vote tabulations as relevant. (More concerning is that the implied increase in the number of citizens will swing the electoral college representations, an even less visible insult to representative government.)
Take a look sometime at the names of the U.S. Students chosen by performance on a spectacularly difficult test for the International Math Olympiad, or its collegiate equivalent The Putnam. Last I looked the Olympiad was 80% foreign students, mostly East Asian and Indian. I want to keep those families, most of whose parents came here for graduate work or on work visas, here contributing their brilliance to our nation’s wealth - our Ultimate Resource.
One of a few suggestions not implemented by our framers from their blueprint for a law-based republic rather than a monarchy, Emmerich de-Vattel’s Nature’s Law and The Law of Ntions, was the suggestion that citizens could not renounce their citizenship if they played a role critical to the health of the Nation. Castro’s Cuba did not allow nor did the USSR renunciation of citizenship without permission. (I don’t know about Russia). But keeping the brightest by making immigration easy for those declaring sole allegiance to our republic is very different than permitting the anchor babies of parents, some of whom seek our destruction, as did Obama’s father. To stay and be supported by our taxes through social services is very different. We would be best served by offering tax incentives to the most talented rather than forcing towns to absorb the 70-80% Muslim males of military age being housed in hotels at our expense.
If Rubio is referring to the senior managers in Silicon Valley, perhaps he is misinterpreting their concerns, which are many, but include the reality that they can’t afford the salaries the most talented engineers require just to live in California. Getting the most talented young engineers might help them survive here, but many of those engineers are finding the paper barriers not worth fighting. I think Rubio may have been taken out of context?
Couldn’t agree more.
We need to shut down immigration.
ALL IMMIGRATION...illegal and legal....
...until we get our house in order.
It isn’t the responsibility of America or Americans to provide the American dream to the citizens of other countries nor to have our culture balkanized, diluted, and replaced with the cultures that immigrants bring from their nations.
I argued that same point here about ten years ago and was flamed as being anti free-trade.
It’s a shame that it took so long and we lost so many jobs before even conservative, free-market Capitalists saw the difference between being a free-trader and a free-traitor.
It isn’t free trade if we have the deck stacked against us.
Cheating among the Indians is a very serious problem. At my last job, I was tasked with creating a qualification exam for applicants.
What should have been a fairly easy task given my training and experience became a very difficult one when I was given the instruction that I had to create an exam that could be given out multiple times but without using the same questions twice.
The reason?
Because we were hiring in India and the hiring manager had caught so many cheating with cell phones, etc. The culture, I was told, was that if one candidate applied for a job but didn’t get it, he or she would provide all other candidates they knew of with as much information about the job as they could. The idea being that if one didn’t get it, another one would, and that eventually, they would all help each other to get one of these coveted American jobs.
It took a while, but I finally created an exam with dozens of extra questions in each section and created a system for substituting the questions every time the exam was given. I figured the exam would last about three years before it needed to be replaced.
What a headache.
Marco is parroting what his GOPe masters tell him too. He is unqualified to speak about technical proficiency of STEM & Hi-Tech industry workers. This is about cheap labor express....
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