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Russian Presence Near Undersea Cables Concerns U.S.
Ny Times ^ | OCT. 25, 2015 | DAVID E. SANGER and ERIC SCHMITT

Posted on 10/25/2015 10:27:30 AM PDT by McGruff

Russian submarines and spy ships are aggressively operating near the vital undersea cables that carry almost all global Internet communications, raising concerns among some American military and intelligence officials that the Russians might be planning to attack those lines in times of conflict.

The issue goes beyond old Cold War worries that the Russians would tap into the cables — a task American intelligence agencies also mastered decades ago. The alarm today is deeper: In times of tension or conflict, the ultimate Russian hack on the United States could involve severing the fiber-optic cables at some of their hardest-to-access locations to halt the instant communications on which the West’s governments, economies and citizens have grown dependent.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Rig the cables so any tampering results in detonation of nearby mines buried in the sea floor with a concussive force that rises directly upward.

3,000+ miles of cable, or only the shallower water portions?

/s

41 posted on 10/25/2015 2:29:31 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: McGruff

Tapping into a fiber optic cable is very difficult on the sea bottom. Detection of tampering is possible.

Cutting a fiber optic cable is very easy - just ask any number of backhoe operators!


42 posted on 10/25/2015 2:32:28 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: McGruff

Business as usual in the coming Soviet Socialist Republic of the United States: “if you want your internet, you can keep your internet.”


43 posted on 10/25/2015 2:39:23 PM PDT by The Westerner
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To: Alberta's Child

“Check out the history of a top-secret U.S. military operation called “Operation Ivy Bells.”

Was that the operation the the book ‘Blind Man’s Bluff’ was based on?


44 posted on 10/25/2015 2:45:10 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: McGruff

So why isn’t our military protecting these hardest to access spots?


45 posted on 10/25/2015 3:16:15 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: Chode

I was gonna say...how do you tap a fiber optic line without literally breaking into the line....and of course instantly alerting the service providers that the line has been breached...


46 posted on 10/25/2015 3:27:36 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: Savage Beast

Kennedy had in fact been briefed about our defense capabilities and just about everything else as the democrat nominee for president BEFORE the debates. He knew the US was well defended; he lied when he said we weren’t, criticizing the Eisenhower/Nixon administration. Vice President Nixon could not rebut this in the debates. because he would be betraying our national secrets.

If Kennedy really won those debates and I do not think he did, it was because he deliberately and knowingly lied. Everyone who listened to the debates via radio rather than watched on TV thought Nixon won handily. Unfortunately, Nixon’s television make-up was not very good and that is the reason some people thought he lost.

My parents told me this, I was just a grammar school kid at the time, uncaring and unknowing — which is exactly as it should be for children.

Nonetheless, with great relish, I chanted on the playground with the other republican children, “Nixon is in the White House talking on the phone, Kennedy’s in the dog house, chewing on a bone” to which the democrat children responded in the reverse, each side attempting to drown the other, the bell rang, when all was forgotten. It sickens me how children are drawn into our disgusting and immoral politics these days.


47 posted on 10/25/2015 3:32:36 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: erkelly
If Kennedy really won those debates and I do not think he did, it was because he deliberately and knowingly lied. Everyone who listened to the debates via radio rather than watched on TV thought Nixon won handily. Unfortunately, Nixon’s television make-up was not very good and that is the reason some people thought he lost.

And that is when "style over substance" took over in politics.

48 posted on 10/25/2015 3:33:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: McGruff
Actually an old problem

A couple years ago an earthquake south of Taiwan cut an underseas cable, and our internet here in the Philippines was out for six weeks...it took me 3 weeks to find out why because I did not read about it in the news or see it on CNN...business internet stayed on by rerouting but they just shut down civilians.

However it did get a lot of coverage in India, whose internet had to be rerouted to the west...and became very slow.

there also were suspicious cuts near Egypt and near the Persian gulf around that time.

some businesses here have satellite internet, and when I lived in rural Oklahoma I had satellite internet. And the military uses satellite intenet too.

49 posted on 10/25/2015 4:03:24 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: aimhigh

Ha!!! God that’s funny. Thanks for the laugh.

Btw, on topic—I’m sure multiple enemy countries have cable cutting bombs already planted at strategic points. Probably, but not certainly, with super long wave communication detonation controllers. They would be stupid not to.

We really, really need Rods From God deployed like yesterday. Send a couple through the roofs of select palaces and such. Without warning. Without notice. Without claiming credit.

Imho


50 posted on 10/25/2015 4:43:28 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Trump: Black Swan Event--Black Swan Don)
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To: rottndog
ya don't as far as i know... i guess if you could open the casing AND if you knew which line was which, you might be able to scrap off a little cladding and pickup a little light bleeding out but even that, is still crazy talk
51 posted on 10/25/2015 5:20:27 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Chode; SAJ; stephenjohnbanker; wardaddy

It’s no accident that this story is being floated just before Infinera’s earnings report that comes out Tuesday. INFN is the premier PIC manufacturer for the internet fiber backbone.


52 posted on 10/25/2015 5:28:44 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: dfwgator
"Our wartime strategy is to hope that Russia or China would never bomb or cut our undersea internet cables that we leave unprotected 24/7." - CIA+NSA+StateDept+WhiteHouse
53 posted on 10/25/2015 5:31:13 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: mkjessup
Mr President, We must not allow a mine-shaft gap!


54 posted on 10/25/2015 5:43:24 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Southack
they use Corning fiber, right?
55 posted on 10/25/2015 5:47:24 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: mkjessup
One other little tidbit. Khrushchev had a summit with Mao, in 1957, as it was revealed that Russia had ICBMs and the Bomb.

Mao pressed for the USSR to hit the US with nukes as soon as possible, since even with 1.4 billion people dead, half the population of China, it would be the Final Victory of Marxism.

Khrushchev started rethinking his support for China. He had literally handed Mao the plans and personnel to build a Chinese atomic bomb, and short range R-2 missiles for the Chinese to copy, even going so far as to have Russian experts suggest the locations for Lop Nor, the Chinese atomic test site, and the missile test area at Shijiedu.

The Russians started reducing their support for China, soon after. Mao was just too crazy.

56 posted on 10/25/2015 7:05:30 PM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

What another line needs to be added, or some maintenance becomes necessary to the original cable?

What if there’s an accidental detonation?


57 posted on 10/25/2015 7:38:07 PM PDT by mbj (My two cents)
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To: erkelly

Would you even know the Russians were there if the military weren’t doing their job? How did this article get reported...?


58 posted on 10/25/2015 7:40:53 PM PDT by mbj (My two cents)
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To: Ax; Alberta's Child
His name is Ronald W. Pelton. I know, because he used to work for me and was a neighbor on base. He’s still in a Supermax but is scheduled to be released this year. He’ll have been locked up for 30 years

Well, I hope you'll be able to resist the inclination to 'swing that Ax' when he gets out (pun intended lol), I know I would be busy sharpening my blade for that traitorous sonuvabitch.
59 posted on 10/25/2015 8:40:15 PM PDT by mkjessup ("Politics Ain't Beanbag - Finley Peter Dunne")
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To: jonascord
Mao was just too crazy

That kwazy kommunist, set off one atomic bomb and 45 minutes later he wants to set off another one, lol

Seriously, Khrushchev may have gotten an early inkling about how Red China (remember when political correctness didn't have to be adhered to, and we called them 'RED' because they WERE?) could end up being a threat to the Soviet Union, a fear born out years later with the border skirmishes between Soviet and Communist Chinese troops in 1969.

Some other historical 'gems' uttered by the dirtbag Cuban Communists reveal their darkened and damned souls for all to see, who have the eyes to see:

“Of course I knew the missiles were nuclear armed, and that is precisely WHY I urged Khrushchev to launch them. And of course Cuba would have been utterly destroyed in the exchange.”
~ Fidel Castro - 1992

"If the missiles had remained, we would have fired them against the very heart of the U.S., including New York. The victory of socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims.”
~ Che Guevara - 1962

“My dream is to drop three Atomic Bombs on New York City”
~ Raul Castro - 1960

Che is dead, but Fidel and Raul are Obama's new buddies. I'll bet Barky never even heard of these quotes, or if he did, it just warmed the cockles of his heart, as he realized "hey, those Castro brothers are my kinda people!"

That depraved Kenyan sack o' sh*t.
60 posted on 10/25/2015 8:59:23 PM PDT by mkjessup ("Politics Ain't Beanbag - Finley Peter Dunne")
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