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Ben Carson's Holocaust theory prompts outcry from Jewish groups
MSNBC ^ | Oct. 9, 2015 | Benjy Sarlin

Posted on 10/10/2015 2:42:51 PM PDT by VitacoreVision

Jewish groups and Holocaust scholars say Ben Carson’s claims that Nazi gun control laws contributed to the Holocaust are offensive and inaccurate, but Carson is not backing down. .

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which was founded to combat anti-Semitism and other forms of prejudice, derided Carson’s theory – which he first raised in his new book “A Perfect Union” – as “historically inaccurate.” .

But the ADL wasn’t the only major organization to weigh in: The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum also took issue with Carson’s decision to inject his claims into America’s gun debate.

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To: Piranha

World War II history - GI Jews

https://vimeo.com/122044578


101 posted on 10/11/2015 9:01:09 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: zeugma

I mainly posted the article to expose the ADL as a crazy right-wing hate machine.


zeugma: Any article about this that doesn’t include a quote from JPFO (Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership) is nothing but pure propaganda.


102 posted on 10/11/2015 11:02:19 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

This Jewish group agrees with Mr. Carson. Obama is importing young men into MY STATE who want to kill me, and now he wants to take me guns away? NEVER AGAIN.


103 posted on 10/11/2015 11:50:39 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: VitacoreVision

Right. I was just pointing out the inconsistancy you see in press reports.

that want a jab at you.


104 posted on 10/11/2015 5:56:44 PM PDT by zeugma (Zaphod Beeblebrox for president! Or Cruz if Zaphod is unavailable.)
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To: gaijin

It made heroes out of the people at Masada.


105 posted on 10/11/2015 6:02:04 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: VitacoreVision
that want wasn't a jab at you.

 

 

106 posted on 10/12/2015 6:42:59 AM PDT by zeugma (Zaphod Beeblebrox for president! Or Cruz if Zaphod is unavailable.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Hmmm... And just who’s funding the ADL and the US Holocaust Museum...

The ADL, which USED TO be a Jewish rights promoting organization, has been nothing but a hard left and dem front group for years. The B’nai Brith actually does some very good charitable work, but I haven’t donated anything to them in years, for the simple reason they’re a hard-core liberal anti-gun group, and the ADL is simply one of their arms.

And the Holocaust Museum is funded by the US government, so they’re not about to go against Obama.

Dr Carson is absolutely right.

Mark


107 posted on 10/12/2015 11:09:10 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Crazieman
The left has taught me guns are more evil than the holocaust.

Especially when put into the hands of those who know they're fighting for their lives...

Some people have heard of the "Warsaw Ghetto Uprising." Very few know that the Nazi's were forced to bring in the Waffen SS, the elite fighting force of one of the most powerful militarys in the world, to quash the uprising, and could only do so by destroying EVERY BUILDING in the Ghetto.

And still the Waffen SS were held off for a month!

And then, even less well know, there was the Treblinka death-camp uprising...

Nope, Jews with guns are an abomination. That's one of the reasons so many in the USA, especially the current administration, so hate Israel.

They believe that Jews are supposed to simply act like sheep, and follow the leader to the gas chambers. Victims are Jews that liberals like, especially dead Jews.

Mark

108 posted on 10/12/2015 11:26:07 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Iron Munro; VitacoreVision

And something even less well known was the inmate rebellion of the Treblinka death camp.

If not for the possession of firearms, the State of Israel would not exist. And that’s something that leftists who happen to be Jewish by an accident of birth really hate. Of course, that’s also why so many hate it when Israel defends itself.

Mark


109 posted on 10/12/2015 1:08:36 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

The JFPO also published an analysis of the (ISA’s) 1968 gun control act, and IIRC, it was based on the 1930s German gun control laws.

I believe that one of the lead authors of the 1968 GCA was stationed in Germany after the war, and had examined those gun control laws.

Mark


110 posted on 10/12/2015 4:20:35 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: CodeToad
I just do not get Jews.

I'm Jewish, and I don't get them either. I'm the "black-sheep" of my family... Conservative leaning small 'L' libertarian, who likes guns and motorcycles.

I've got a cousin who is the daughter of an ultra-liberal mother, and the acorn didn't fall far from the tree. Even though she married and moved to Israel, she's still extremely liberal, loves Obama (she is still an American citizen and voted for Obama, and would do so again,) and hates Bibi. Needless to say, I don't get her.

I had another cousin who freaked out when she learned I owned guns. She was outraged, and accused me, "You own a gun?!?! Well, I'm never coming over to your house!" My response was, "I don't own a gun. I own 17 guns. And you're not invited to my house!"

Mark

111 posted on 10/12/2015 4:27:52 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Lisbon1940

One of the things that contributed to the Holocaust was the belief by the Jews who had integrated themselves into Jewish society, been accepted (for the most part) into that society, and even joined the Kaiser’s army, and served & fought honorably during WW I, they could not believe that their country could possibly turn on them.

Germany was the birthplace of Reform Judaism, and many German Jews saw themselves as Germans first, who just happened to be Jewish. They couldn’t believe how their neighbors turned on them.

But Europe has a very long history of anti-semitism, and goes very deep.

Mark


112 posted on 10/12/2015 4:36:31 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

Jews, as brave as they were thousands of years ago, just aren’t anymore. Moses would be ashamed.


113 posted on 10/12/2015 4:37:38 PM PDT by CodeToad (Stupid kills, but not nearly enough!)
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To: VitacoreVision
Socialist Jews oppose gun ownership, BECAUSE they are Socialist.

They worship the State like their ancestors worshiped a certain golden calf. Widespread gun ownership creates a limit on the effective power of the State, and a Statist cannot tolerate that.

114 posted on 10/12/2015 4:55:42 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: VitacoreVision

ADL is an extension of the Democratic Party, so anything hostile to gun control will be opposed by the ADL.


115 posted on 10/15/2015 11:44:26 AM PDT by Winged Hussar
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