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Obama in Roseburg: live updates on visits with Oregon school shooting victims
OregonLive ^ | October 09, 2015 at 11:11 AM | Molly Harbarger |

Posted on 10/09/2015 11:15:41 AM PDT by TroutStalker

It's little more than an hour until wheels down in Eugene for President Barack Obama. He is meeting with the families of victims of the Umpqua Community College shooting, then flying to Seattle for Democratic National Committee roundtable.

Gov. Kate Brown will accompany Obama on his visits. Neither are expected to speak publicly. Yet, many see Obama's meeting the grieving families as a maneuver to push gun control laws in Congress.

Especially after Obama's impassioned speech, saying mass shootings could be prevented with stricter gun laws.

Already, protestors are in position to greet Obama when his plane lands in Eugene.

Conservative leaders in Douglas County say they expect at least 2,400 to show up among three different protest sites.

Meanwhile, another college shooting was reported Friday morning in Flagstaff, Arizona. At Northern Arizona University, a freshman killed one student and injured three others before surrendering to police.

The incident has fueled social media activity on both sides of the gun control debate.

The Oregonian's political team, Ian Kullgren and Jeff Mapes, are in Roseburg today, so you can follow their Twitter accounts by clicking their names.

We'll also be updated this blog all day with news from the ground. So, check back early and often.

11:11 a.m. 

CQ5OP1jUEAABRzu.jpg-large.jpegBrothers Caleb, 21, and Joshua Brimmer, 19, waiting for President Barack Obama to arrive in Roseburg. "I think he (Obama) should listen to the American people."  

11:07 a.m. Read: Protesters turn out for Obama in Roseburg

It's the first Oregonian/OregonLive dispatch from on the ground today.

The group suggests demonstrators bring water, snacks and firearms if they feel the need to, but only handguns and to keep them holstered.

"Show the world that American gun owners are responsible patriots," a post by the group reads. "Look out for each other."

10:53 a.m. Not everyone is mad at Obama's visit. Oregonian reporter Rebecca Woolington said some people are gathered at the Roseburg Airport in support. She reports:

"I am embarrassed of what's going on up there," said Bryony Allenby, pointing up to the other protesters."

Allenby, who lives in Winchester, said she and family wanted to move away from the protesters who don't want Obama to visit. 

Allenby said she went to UCC, is still very connected to the school and lives nearby. She heard gunshots last week.

"It's a very rare privilege to be able to be that close to the president of the United States of America," Allenby said.

Nkenge Harmon Johnson, CEO of the Urban League of Portland, also appreciated his visit.

Steve Mims, the Ducks football writer for the Eugene Register-Guard tweeted: "Politics aside, just can't believe there are people who don't welcome a president to console those who lost so much."

10:48 a.m. Photographer Beth Nakamura is talking to some protestors. Rick Halle, who is with about 10 other people, said he wants to have a peaceful protest that gets across the message that they don't want Obama "pushing political agendas on us."

"We're upset that literally within moments of this tragedy Obama was using it to force a political agenda," Halle said.

TV stations have been showing the crowd slowly grow in size since 9 a.m.

10:12 a.m. While we wait for Obama's plane in Eugene, let's start with some relevant reading.

This morning, Oregonian political reporter Denis Theriault published a story about how researchers and psychologists have made strides in identifying people who might be moved to rampage to stop them before they start.

"You're not going to be able to look at someone and say, 'Two years from now, he's going to be the next school shooter,'" said Mario Scalora, a psychologist at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln who consults nationally on how to thwart mass shootings and other targeted violence.

But Scalora and others said listening — and speaking up when something isn't right — can stop such crimes. A burgeoning field of study called risk assessment is also making a difference.

Mass shootings "are very preventable," Scalora said. "In a lot of cases, there are warning signs."

Read the story: Stopping mass shooters: Experts share lessons since Thurston

That story reflects on an Oregon school shooting in 1998. Read about that one and other in this list of mass shootings in Oregon.

How do authorities determine what constitutes a mass shooting? We have your answer: How many U.S. mass shootings? Why it's so hard to pin down

-- Molly Harbarger


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
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To: TroutStalker
Cross linking to another thread on this:
'Go golf': Over 8,000 Oregon protesters tell Obama to go home
theamericanmirror ^ | October 9, 2015 | Olaf Ekberg

Posted on 10/9/2015, 12:35:57 PM by UMCRevMom@aol.com



81 posted on 10/09/2015 1:15:48 PM PDT by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/CoverupIRS-LIES/CoverupDOJ-NO Justice Marxist Treason)
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82 posted on 10/09/2015 1:16:25 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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I’ll bet the SS is having fits.....that is ...if they’re not paying attention b/c they’re at the local *Bunny Ranch*.


83 posted on 10/09/2015 1:20:03 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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Article Link from the Register Guard:

Protest Crowds Swelling as Critics Await Obama Vist to Roseburg

84 posted on 10/09/2015 1:22:59 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: M Kehoe

LOL....maybe they meant *OREGANO*....as in “oh-RAY-gah-no”. ;)


85 posted on 10/09/2015 1:23:23 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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86 posted on 10/09/2015 1:23:50 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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Probably security detail on overlook. No caption on original from source above;


87 posted on 10/09/2015 1:25:19 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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That’s atop one of the hangars at the airport.


88 posted on 10/09/2015 1:26:04 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Only one solution left.....)
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To: hoagy62
Thanks!

Continuing on w/ my mission for the afternoon:


89 posted on 10/09/2015 1:27:47 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black

BOOM! Good for you Oregon.


90 posted on 10/09/2015 1:28:38 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: Jack Black

91 posted on 10/09/2015 1:28:38 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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92 posted on 10/09/2015 1:29:52 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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Reminds me of the Bundy Ranch standoff...in our resent past


93 posted on 10/09/2015 1:30:24 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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1:30 p.m. Obama is at Roseburg High School currently. Some supporters and protestors are waiting outside, but not as many as were at the airport.


94 posted on 10/09/2015 1:31:38 PM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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To: who knows what evil?
I went to Eastern Oregon in the late ‘50s with my Mom And Dad, met many of my family who spread out from Utah in the 1870s and 80s.

They were a picture of the West.

95 posted on 10/09/2015 1:34:58 PM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: Daffynition

LOL


96 posted on 10/09/2015 1:35:38 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Daffynition

I’ll bet the SS is having fits.....that is ...if they’re not paying attention b/c they’re at the local *Bunny Ranch*.


They’re paying attention to the county Sheriff because they know he will defend the Second Amendment.


97 posted on 10/09/2015 1:36:24 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: TroutStalker
Obama is at Roseburg High School currently

I thought he was just visiting the injured and families of the deceased. Why is he at the High School? Some school administrator needs to have the PTA read her the riot act.

98 posted on 10/09/2015 1:39:18 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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Another InfoWars link, this one a video: OBAMA: STAY OUT OF ROSEBURG, OREGON! SPECIAL REPORT
99 posted on 10/09/2015 1:41:28 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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Thanks to Admin Moderator for sidebar posting, thanks to everyone for comments and postings. Hope others can step in and keep this thread (and the other one on topic) going.

I've got to get to some other things on my list for today.

100 posted on 10/09/2015 1:43:19 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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