"I love it when a plan comes together." ;)
Posted on 10/08/2015 11:45:31 AM PDT by cotton1706
The Establishment is going to be VERY, VERY pissed at all of us!
They're power is crumbling, and their neat little line of successors is no more!
Which is more unlikely, choosing a Speaker from outside the House membership, or shutting down Congress because they can’t find anyone within it able to garner 218 votes? If we’re not at the latter now we’re at least closer than we’ve been in a long time. The Conservative minority might even take the shutdown over another RINO speaker.
"I love it when a plan comes together." ;)
Why would that shut down the House? The Constitution says that the House shall choose its leaders; it doesn't say that it can't meet without a Speaker. If Boehner were to walk away tomorrow that doesn't mean the House disbands and goes into hiatus until a Speaker is chosen.
So to answer your question, there is zero chance that the House will choose a Speaker from outside of Congress. And there is the same chance that the House will shut down due to lack of Speaker. So both are equally unlikely.
Also, if desperate RINOs decide to throw out Romney for Speaker, Conservatives had better be ready with Palin as a better alternative. Unlike Romney she’s actually worked with legislators, many of whom in Alaska weren’t her supporters, and has gotten good things done. Mitt has less experience for Speaker than Obama did for President.
They have been stripped of their status, a great deal has changed!
I sure most of us heard the Rubio speech where he told the audience that Bonher was stepping down. The cheers from the crowd had to send a chill down the RINOs spine.
The Constitution doesn’t say it can’t meet without a Speaker, but do House rules (which the Constitution delegates to the House) say HOW it can meet without one. I honestly don’t know, but I strongly suspect that historically that Chair has never been vacant very long and that very little else was accomplished by the House during the vacancies. Doubtless several Freepers know that history better than I and I’d be happy to be corrected if wrong. Learning is part of the fun here.
Yes, they do.
I honestly don’t know, but I strongly suspect that historically that Chair has never been vacant very long and that very little else was accomplished by the House during the vacancies.
The Speaker's office has been vacant for several months at a time, but always when a sitting Speaker died after Congress had adjourned but before the new Congress assembled.
The fact is that when he assumed the duties as Speaker, John Boehner provided a list of congressmen who would act as Speaker Pro Temp in the event the position became vacant. If Boehner walks away and Congress can't settle on a replacement then one of Boehner's hand-picked substitutes fills the role.
PRIMARIES!
Good news, there have been some great congressmen on Fox today, they want ideas to come from the ground up, not the dictation down.
Webster sounded good to me.
“It almost appears like the Freedom Caucus is surprised they finally ousted Boehner, and they hadn’t thought much about their game plan if they were successful.”
They have leverage, but not control. They now have the numbers to block, but not to get their own guy in—unless they can bring in enough establishment guys (who make up the overwhelming majority of the Republican caucus).
Fret not! There are still plenty of them in line. However, one thing they did not account for was the anger of the party base. Being part of that base, I pray that we do not falter at this point. Better to have some of them drop out of their 2016 race in fear and hopefully pick up a real conservative.
Don’t count your chickens before they are hatched.
**** “The house is still being held hostage by leaders that won’t go” ****
Bump
Agreed
Both House and Senate are FUBAR
(FUBAR is a Military Technical Term, Highly Technical and Extremely Descriptive as well as 100% Accurate as used above)
TT
Having an unelected Speaker Pro Temp may keep the wheels of Congress rolling when the Speaker is temporarily unavailable through illness or absence. It should suffice to get through a noncontroversial election of a permanent Speaker. But as a medium to long term solution, while Congress is working through controversial matters, I can't see a Speaker Pro Temp, elected by no one but his own constituents and selected by someone no longer even in Congress, having success herding these egotistical cats. "Who elected YOU to tell me what I can and can't do?" would become a common refrain. RINOs, and moderates in general, appear to like order. They react poorly to pressure from either flank. The left realizes and uses this all the time to great success. We may hope the right is finally learning it. If the RINOs think they can get by with Pro Temp solutions and maintain long term order they are in for unpleasant surprises. A genuinely elected, by a majority of the House, outsider would hold more authority over them. A Speaker from within, acceptable to a majority of both the whole House and the nominally majority party is clearly preferable. But when the majority 'party' is functionally two different parties it may not be possible.
We need to keep this in the public eye as much as we can. Too many of the base hate the ‘establishment,’ but think their own CongressCritter sh*ts gold. This shows that in spite of two landslides most of ‘our guys’ still reek. The base needs to see the truth about ‘our guys’ in time to primary and replace a enough of them that the survivors realize WE’RE the boss, not the $ guys. If this doesn’t happen 2018 will become another 2006 in which our base stays home and the left wins big. I doubt the country could take that again.
When you have them on the ropes you don’t quit punching until you knock them out.
They are on the ropes now.
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