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Is it right to hold Oregon shooter's mother responsible? Updated 11:05 AM ET,
CNN ^ | Wed October 7, 2015 | Peggy Drexler

Posted on 10/07/2015 10:07:57 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter

As details emerge about Laurel Harper, whose 26-year-old son, Christopher Harper-Mercer, opened fire on his creative writing class at Umpqua Community College, so too has a common, unsurprising, undercurrent of blame.

Why didn't Laurel Harper do more to curb her son's violent tendencies? Shouldn't she have seen this coming?

After all, according to online writings apparently made by Harper and first described in The New York Times, not only did she neglect to discourage her son's growing interest in guns, but she also seemed to encourage it. Over the years, according to the posts linked to Harper, she expressed pride in her son's expertise with guns, bragging in an online journal about his prowess.

Writings from "Tweety Bird" (the Yahoo account name linked to Harper) appear to indicate that she did this even as she told others she worried about her son's violent tendencies. Tweety offers that her son was a "headbanger," and was a child who had been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome -- which she also had, according to a Tweety post. (Studies have shown there is no direct link between Asperger's and violence.)

 And yet, according to her neighbors, Harper brought her son to shooting ranges. Police would eventually recover 14 firearms from the two -- six from the shooting, and the rest from the apartment they shared.

Indeed, it's hard not to point the finger at Harper, a mother who most assuredly knew her son was not entirely stable.

Children develop interests and often look to those adults who can help nurture them. There's a good chance that, had his mother not been interested or available, Harper-Mercer might have sought out another person to talk with about guns and the horrendous result might have been the same.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; oregon
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Now that it has become almost 100% obvious that the shooter's black mother provider 100% of the guns used by her son, CNN begins publishing excuses for the mother's action.
1 posted on 10/07/2015 10:07:57 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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Smacks of typical rampant LIBERALISM. Nobody is responsible for their OWN ACTIONS. The shooter was an ADULT. Leave it to CNN to spray liberalism all over any situation that the radical left will try and take advantage of.


2 posted on 10/07/2015 10:12:12 AM PDT by EagleUSA (Liberalism removes the significance of everything.)
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Yes the shooter was an adult. He was also an obvious wacko. It is not liberalism to think that someone maybe shouldn’t arm an obvious violent wacko. There’s responsibility there too.


3 posted on 10/07/2015 10:14:13 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

No.

She didn’t commit the crime, she isn’t responsible for the choices her adult son made.

God isn’t going to send her to Hell for choices he made, and neither should we.


4 posted on 10/07/2015 10:14:36 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: mlo

She isn’t responsible for his crimes.

He is.


5 posted on 10/07/2015 10:15:48 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

It seemsto me that there’s only one person responsible for this crime and he’s already dead.


6 posted on 10/07/2015 10:15:56 AM PDT by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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No, 'we' can't assign any of the blame to the mother, because 'we' need every precious ounce of blame we can muster for the guns...
7 posted on 10/07/2015 10:16:45 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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The Oregon shooter’s mother was probably overwhelmed long ago, from the demands made upon her trying to keep some kind of rein on a very troubled youth.

Was the son mentally troubled? The signs would have been obvious early on, but he certainly did not have a very high degree of social adjustment. Apparently of an above-average degree of intelligence, but ZERO impulse control, often giving into frustration and with a very low threshold.

Until you have lived with this 24/7, you cannot imagine the stress it creates. Even with guidance, it is a rough old cob to have to deal with, and if you don’t know what steps to take or how to damp down the mood swings, things can get outta control pretty quickly.


8 posted on 10/07/2015 10:18:08 AM PDT by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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Though all the guns in the Harper-Mercer household were purchased legally, there's certainly reason to question whether a system in which guns were rationally regulated would determine that a single mother and her 26-year-old son needed so many weapons.

"Need" is not a legitimate part of a discussion about a God-given right.

9 posted on 10/07/2015 10:18:13 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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Jindal wrote a very good response here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3345534/posts


10 posted on 10/07/2015 10:18:20 AM PDT by mlizzy (America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe/Wade has deformed a great nation. -MT)
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Lanza did his mother a favor.If he let her live she would be covered in 3rd degree burns from being raked over the coals.
Maybe he wasn’t that looney after all.


11 posted on 10/07/2015 10:18:34 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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His DahDah is also to blame, Big Time.


12 posted on 10/07/2015 10:20:20 AM PDT by Paladin2 (my non desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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Police would eventually recover 14 firearms from the two

Am I the only one bothered by this? What business did the police have "recovering" any firearms other than the six at the scene? His mother may have been an ass, but it doesn't appear that she broke any laws, but yet the police are depriving her of her property and her ability to defend herself. This appears to violate the fourth amendment - something that government does all the time these days.

13 posted on 10/07/2015 10:20:54 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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“Now that it has become almost 100% obvious that the shooter’s black mother provider 100% of the guns used by her son, CNN begins publishing excuses for the mother’s action.”

Once you go white, you’ll never be right.


14 posted on 10/07/2015 10:21:42 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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Yep.

I have tremendous empathy for the parent (or other relative) of a mentally disturbed individual. Been there. Current law makes it darn near impossible to get treatment without the consent of the patient.

The question is whether she knew he was mentally unstable. If she did, she should absolutely have removed firearms (or any other weapon) from his reach.

That’s what our family did. Just common sense.


15 posted on 10/07/2015 10:21:48 AM PDT by Jedidah
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Another article from the mainstream with no photos of mom.
Do I need to wonder why?


16 posted on 10/07/2015 10:22:07 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: Paladin2

In the sense that he was absent and neglected the relationship, yes. But no hands-on culpability, from what I’ve read. I thought the perp barely knew his male parent (the one who has been so vocally pro gun control).


17 posted on 10/07/2015 10:26:23 AM PDT by Jedidah
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Aside from the shooter, I hold responsible those who oppose any restrictions on carrying a handgun for personal, family OR community defense.

That’s it!


18 posted on 10/07/2015 10:30:00 AM PDT by zencycler
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Keep your eyes out for the media attempting to link Trump to the shooter. Note that Trump’s picture is next to this article with a “related story” tag. Last night I saw a similar Daily Mail article that stated she read her son Art of the Deal - it was even in the freakin’ headline!

‘He’s no babbling idiot nor is his life worthless’: Mother of Oregon college shooter defended him to fellow gun enthusiasts and told how she read to him from Donald Trump’s Art of The Deal
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3262842/Laurel-Harper-mother-Chris-Harper-Mercer-talked-fondness-firearms-son-online-postings.html


19 posted on 10/07/2015 10:30:57 AM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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Look up Andrew Ellmaker. He lived with his mother, was unstable, had knives and chain saws in his room and murdered his social worker.


20 posted on 10/07/2015 10:34:43 AM PDT by Mercat (You don't recommend better diet and exercise for a shark bite.)
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