Posted on 10/05/2015 6:59:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I don't see that Russia has gained a major new ally in the region...unless it's Iran.
They have always had alignment and alliance with Syria.
What's really different here is the fact the USA, under Obama, has been totally out maneuvered, on a grand scale.
It may result in a permanent realignment of alliances in the Middle East.
Israel declines to criticize the Russian presence and airstrikes.
Egypt supports.
Merkel and EU members of the coalition stating Assad must be at the negotiating table.
And the US/Qutar/Saudis isolated.
It's the "political defeat" that has strategic implications, not modest Russian forces in Syria. And they are modest, at best.
One of the best strategies in Doom was always to sneak into a room, fire a few shots and get all the bad guys fighting with each other, come in a little later and mop up. Only problem is that in Doom, the monsters didn’t have wives and children among them.
I don't see that Russia has gained a major new ally in the region...unless it's Iran.
By "huge strategic advantage over the US and it's allies" I was referring to them setting up strategic positions in the Middle East, as well as 'acquiring' great wealth from those nation's natural and other resources.
You are not edifying anyone.
What you fail to realize is that there appears to be a large majority of Americans, and Freepers, who see NO vital US interests in Syria. Or the fact that Russia is exerting itself there.
But, go on wasting bits if you must.
Netanyahu also calls Iran a bigger threat than ISIS, just saying.
The US has "no vital interests" in Russia, a country with a long history of supporting and arming our enemies, taking over Syria and eventually the whole Middle East?
Grampa Dave has shown himself to be erudite and wise over many years here.
You're the singularly focused newbie idiot.
"The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming!"
None whatsoever.
There have always been Russian weapons and personnel in Syria.
" and eventually the whole Middle East?"
Those facts are not in evidence.
Certainly the US would do well to reestablish good, healthy relationships with Iraq, Jordan, Israel and Egypt.
Otherwise, they too, could be wooed to align with a new "protector".
US political failures in the Middle East and Med are not, and should not, be described as Russian victories.
ETL’s posts are fine, so are everyone’s.
Hezbollah has sent a lot of fighters to Syria, some maps even show Hezbollah controlled areas.
So, better all of this goes on in Syria, than in Israel or Lebanon, Syria was a role player in their civil war.
According to this, the Assad regime cooperated with Jihadis, allowing them to attack US forces from Syria. This is well known.
So, basically, Assad is a collaborator with Extremists as well.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-syria-became-hell-on-earth-2015-10
They obviously are, you moron. Problem with people like you is that you don't give a crap if a dangerous enemy-supporting country like Russia is making major moves on the world stage to expand their power and influence over a good chunk of it. Either that or you actually want them to replace the US as the world's leading superpower. Could that be it? Be honest.
Interesting logic to these articles, get the extremists in Russia out of Russia and into Syria. There are a lot of persons from the former USSR fighting there http://www.businessinsider.com/why-russia-is-supporting-assas-2015-9
And from what I hear, Hezbollah (Iran supported) is joining with Russia in fighting ISIS. So now they have two of their sworn enemies fighting each other. If I were them I’d keep a close watch but not interfere just yet.
Sounds like McCarthy has embraced the Obama Doctrine. He’s couched it in a lot of anti-Obama rhetoric, but the end result is the same policy.
I think I’m fine with this whole thing. Syria is an ally of Russia, I would expect Russia to help them, but in the end, why shouldn’t Russia deal with these nuts? We’ve done it long enough. The Mideast countries aren’t willing to clean their own house. Let them all kill each other. As long as they leave Israel alone, we don’t really have any interests. I can’t see Putin trying to wipe Israel away, or even helping those who would.
Thanks ETL.
None of these people seem to realize that if we cracked down on muslims in America, Putin would protest as he had done before. ISIS only bothers him if it spills over his spot.
The Shias were the only credible mean to stomp out Suni terror. The Soviets, and now Russia, promoted history revisionist anti-shia ayatollahs in order to control all aspects of islam in the mid east, destroying Shia independence.
It took him a while to get to his point. National Rino holds true to form.
I shot the last man that called me a moron.
And he was a better man than you because he was a patriot who wore his country's uniform.
And, actually took up arms, in the trenches withe blood and shit and puke that comes with real fear.
And you're none of that and never will be.
this overlooks the truth...... after Obama abandoned them in ‘13 they could not function
the wackos filledthe void
the moderates fled and are now refugees
obama must resign or otherwise leave office
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