Posted on 10/04/2015 6:59:56 AM PDT by w4women
The conventional wisdom is that Vladimir Putin has blindsided Barack Obama in the Middle East, catching the U.S. off-guard. Its another Obama failure, were told. Obama administration scrambles as Russia attempts to seize initiative in Syria, is how a Washington Post headline described it. A popular cartoon shows Putin kicking sand in the faces of Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry on a beach. - snip - Heres how her story began: Moscows rapid military buildup in Syria is a result of the reset in relations forged with the Russian and Iranian governments by the Barack Obama administration. The dealreshaping alliances and conditions from Syria, Iran and the rest of the Middle East to Ukraine and surrounding regionis the cornerstone of U.S. imperialisms efforts to establish a new order in the Mideast, but from a much weaker position than when the now-disintegrating order was imposed after World Wars I and II.
(Excerpt) Read more at aim.org ...
Here's another showing the Proposed "Nabucca Pipeline"...which brings Turkey into the fray...
This could easily be the "Hook" that in time pulls Russia's interest toward Israel...
oops...posted to wrong poster....see post 22 please....
That feebleminded Daily Mail graphic doesn’t capture the situation at all.
Russia has no prestige, never will, its thug regime is the latest in a long line of thug regimes.
Russia’s our enemy, just as the USSR was. Instead of expelling their proxies and puppets from the western hemisphere, Obama has embraced each and every one, most recently the druglords running Havana.
Russia has a bunch of Russian nationals living in Syria — they’re muzzies, and married to Syrians for the most part, sometimes maintaining dual citizenship, and it was fine with Russia to have them not living in Russia; they aren’t a basis for war, but they have been put forward as a pretext. Putin wouldn’t care if all of them were burned to death by jihadists, but would welcome an addiitional pretext for intervention.
Putin is a commie and atheist, and isn’t a defender of any faith. He’s not sending troops and planes into Syria to protect its Christians, just as the Alawite muzzie Assad has never lifted a finger to protect Syria’s Christians.
Russian intervention in Syria came about because of the Lurch-Zero surrender document with Iran — it lit up a lot of alarms in Russia. For example, it will legitimize Iranian petroleum products and lead to modernization and redevelopment of Iranian fields. The Turks have pipelines running across their territory that carry Iranian product *now*, that’s bound to increase, and Russia regards Turkey as a longterm enemy (and vice versa). And it was really funny when Iran *didn’t* have nuclear weapon, and the Russians were helping them build a nuclear program to undermine the US, oops, I mean, “advance Russian influence in the Middle East.”
The Zero regime doesn’t appear to be interested in “maintaining relations with Israel”, and that’s also part of Lurch’s “hell of a pinpoint operation.” Israel’s been warning Russia that they won’t put up with advanced anti-aircraft systems getting shipped to Iran, or the production of an Iranian nuclear bomb. Russia’s rattled the saber regarding Turkey’s threat to Israeli development of offshore hydrocarbon resources, as well as Turkey’s threat to Cyprus’ similar operations. But Russia has also given some diplomatic support to the TRNC.
Iran and the US do not both give military support for Iraq; the US supports what’s left of the regime; the Iranian mullahcracy has been working nonstop to dismantle the Iraqi regime, and supports *only* the Shiite militias inside the country.
ISIS has operated inside Syria for a long while now; ISIS isn’t the product of US/CIA/wot covert activity, it is indigenous to Iraq, other than the fact that the USSR is the birthplace of modern terrorism including the modern version of jihad.
Like Obama, Iran supported the installation of Morsi in the overthrow of the Egyptian gov’t a few years ago. Unlike Obama and Iran, Syria’s Assad expressed joy when Morsi was removed.
Iran has missiles overlooking the sealanes at the southern mouth of the Red Sea; they’ve had them in Eritrea for years, and are trying to get the same thing going in Yemen.
There’s no upside (moral high ground) to the US to support Iran against Saudi Arabia, or to support Russia against Saudi Arabia.
Putin has followed Assad’s policy of attacking rebel groups other than ISIS; ISIS has attacked targets in Saudi Arabia. Iran’s proxy thugs, the hizbollah, have fought ISIS in spots where ISIS has contested control (mainly along the Lebanese border). The Iranians moved 19,000 troops into Syria four years ago, and most recently the overwhelming Iranian influence over the tatters of the Assad regime has led to purges, exiles, and the like among those who supported Assad but not the Iranian domination. That figures into Putin’s motivations for his escalation.
Whatever he manages to accomplish, Putin will be facing a steady stream of body bags.
Russia moving in under the pretense of ridding the region of ISIS is like the Mafia moving to your neighborhood under the pretense of removing a violent street gang, then setting up a permanent base there to do Mob business.
Russia will grow wealthier, more powerful, more aggressive in their overall expansionist agenda (Eastern Europe, eventually elsewhere), and much more of a threat to the US and its allies throughout the region and the world.
Sure its great IF they actually do get rid of ISIS (we shall see). But having a country like Russia step in and gain such huge strategic advantage over the US and it’s allies is really nothing we should be cheering about.
If Obama was serious about wanting to take out ISIS, which I dont believe he ever wasI think him and Putin are actually in cahoots on this whole thing despite his and Kerrys moans and groans about it, it might not ever have come to this, although Russia would likely have come up with some other rationale or excuse for moving into Syria and taking control of it, and ultimately the entire Middle East. Makes me wonder if ISIS wasnt a KGB-like invention of the Russians.
Thanks for your well informed facts and perspective.
1- What should we (people who care about America and traditional American values) be looking for, as a viable strategy for dealing with the Middle East?
2- Who do you think is the best candidate to implement the strategy you envision?
My pleasure, thanks LF.
We need to make sure that the jihadists keep fighting one another, and to that end, that they never run out of ammo. Domestically, we need to increase US hydrocarbon production, including fraccing and coal, as well as plasma waste disposal, in order to crater the funding for jihad. The empty spaces in Saudi Arabia and Egypt should be developed into small-farm agriculture followed by an active program to suck down millions of ordinary muzzies who just want the prospect of a better life and no more ranting and jihad (those are the true 'moderates'). Also related to reducing funding for jihad, we need to have an intense program to develop ambient-temperature superconductors, a superconducting electrical distribution grid across the US would more than double the effective generating capacity, turning the US into a net exporter of energy as we transition to electric vehicles and hydrogen-powered vehicles.
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