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Taliban says shot down crashed US C-130 plane in Afghanistan
MSN ^ | 10-2-2015 | AFP

Posted on 10/01/2015 9:42:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf

The Taliban Friday claimed to have shot down a C-130 military transport plane in eastern Afghanistan, with NATO confirming that 11 people including six US soldiers were killed in the crash.

NATO did not confirm the cause of the crash but it comes as Afghan forces -- backed by NATO special forces and US air support -- pushed into the centre of the northern city of Kunduz which was captured by the Taliban on Monday.

"Our mujahideen have shot down a four-engine US aircraft in Jalalabad," Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said on Twitter.

"Based on credible information 15 invading forces and a number of puppet troops were killed."

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; c130; jalalabad; taliban
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To: 100American

Most C-130 mishaps on take-off are due to shifting internal loads, payload not secured or loose, upon rotation the payload shifts to the rear of the aircraft thereby moving the CG way aft and the aircraft pitches up and is unable to recover.

Too early to know for certain, but I’d be very surprised if it was lost due to hostile fire.


21 posted on 10/02/2015 11:21:55 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Ace's Dad

Anyone can shoot down anyone with a well placed “magic BB”. . .but having said that, see Post 21.


22 posted on 10/02/2015 11:23:52 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: TexasCajun

Post 21.


23 posted on 10/02/2015 11:24:29 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

I would agree with your fundamentals, an old classmate was a 130 driver and she is one tough bird

Unfortunately the GTA misslesthey have are the latest shoulder fire ones which tilt the table, dependent of course on location of the shooter at the time of downing. As a follow on to your shifting cargo it could be that evasive action related to AA or GTA missles shifted it and caused a stall and crash...

Just postulating, but NO response from Gov on yay or nay, swept under the rug...

Watch and See, threads are unraveling...


24 posted on 10/02/2015 12:36:38 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: 100American

Agree. Too early.

The USAF will publish an initial report within 10-days and within 60-days the final will be published.

If shot down, we will know (people will talk if there are any tin-foil hats out there that feel a cover-up is in the works).

Side note (not a fight, an observation): it seems people always say females in the military that they know are “tough” “hard” or use any number of masculine terms to describe them. . .thereby providing acknowledgement that feminine qualities have no place in a warrior culture. . .that manliness reigns and females have to ACT like a man. . .while at the same time we see in media and popular culture manly warrior chest-thumping testosterone-driven aggression mocked while at the same time females in the military affect this same manly chest-thumping behavior/trait and are extolled. . .


25 posted on 10/02/2015 12:48:46 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: caww

So sad that Satan has set up rule in so many places that used to be Human and Admirable. Depressing, nauseating, miserable.


26 posted on 10/02/2015 1:04:14 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: headstamp 2

These Muslims are NOT extremists...they are practicing Islam according to Islamic teachings, according to Mohammed and the Koran, as well as Muslim Clerics and Political Leaderships...... From the Warlords of the Taliban in Apfghanitstan...to those fighting in Syria, Yemen, Libya, Sudan and other African nations ....to Israel, Sinai and Lebanon, Pakistan, Somalia ,Turkey, etc. etc. the list goes on all regarding Islams duty to subdue the nations and decclare them Islamic nations..... ISIS and ISIL and other terrorist groups are simply the Military arm of Islam.

Not one single country where Islam is has brought Peace?


27 posted on 10/02/2015 1:07:22 PM PDT by caww
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To: txhurl

They ruin everything their hands touch......but then considering who they follow it can be nothing else but that.


28 posted on 10/02/2015 1:14:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: Hulka

Remember, there are over 20,000 shoulder launched missiles in the region due to Hillary and Obama. Simple search will find multiple reports of that:

“Free for all: Up to 20,000 anti-aircraft missiles stolen in Libya”- The Daily Caller By Neil Munro - The Daily Caller
September 27, 2011 3:54 PM”

C-130 on approach or take off is a sitting duck.

Obama’s legacy gets another notch?

Just sayin’


29 posted on 10/02/2015 1:25:44 PM PDT by Lloyd-right (The triumvirate has risen! Gold, Silver & Bitcoin!)
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To: Lloyd-right

Yup.

Don’t know yet.


30 posted on 10/02/2015 1:26:59 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: caww
Ya but, our Dear Leader just told us:

"We know that ISIL, which emerged out of the chaos of Iraq and Syria, depends on perpetual war to survive. But we also know that they gain adherence(sic) because of a poisonous ideology. So part of our job, together, is to work to reject such extremism that infects too many of our young people. Part of that effort must be a continued rejection by Muslims of those who distort Islam to preach intolerance and promote violence, and it must also involve a rejection by non-Muslims of the ignorance that equates Islam with terror."

ps I think he means "adherents", but otherwise the English isn't too bad.

31 posted on 10/02/2015 1:31:27 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: Hulka

There is a youtube of the C17 (IIRC) that crashed leaving Bagram due to a load shift. Very dramatic, and the flight was doomed as soon as the shift happened.

The Herc is a solid performer, but crashes are not unknown.

The late night departure was due to fear of local Taliban and a possible shootdown attempt? Don’t know, but it will come out in the report if that was the case, and the cause of the crash as well.


32 posted on 10/02/2015 1:52:07 PM PDT by wrench
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To: Hulka

Agree and with an odd tangental proof

Went on a dating site and took a manly I am king of my home posture, not quitre dripping with testosterone but damned close...

My mailbox exploded, around the world across cultures women professed they wanted Real Men, not the effeminate body shavers that the media promotes

Not just a few messages, all told more than 2000

Not bragging, it was Gods light in my eyes and acting as a Man should that they all comment on

Women outside the US want to be women, here in the US....regional at best


33 posted on 10/02/2015 2:11:10 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: VTenigma

Can anyone tell me why the Taliban survived to see 2002 let alone 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015?

The Nazis only made it 3.5 years after we got in WW2.

If we aren’t gonna WIPE OUT these scum then it’s time to stop wasting lives and money and just cut out.


34 posted on 10/03/2015 10:37:02 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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