Let’s Do Better Than This - Trump’s touting of socialized medicine and confused position on taxes...

The American Spectator ^ | September 30, 2015 | Scott McKay

[C. Edmund Wright]

Trump will get done what is do-able....... Yes by all means a flat tax, but now is not the time.

I don't necessarily disagree with you on that, but what I find really funny - and disturbing -is that now many of the same posters who would TOTALLY REJECT that line of reasoning with any other candidate or elected official in office....now take refuge in that kind of thinking to validate their support of DT. Not saying you, by the way, but there are many. It's quite a situational set of ethics.

[C. Edmund Wright]

Total total straw dog false choice argument. 100%.

[Gaffer]

I agree with you. At this point in the game, the first out with a plan gets the round table bend-over. The media, Trump haters and the other candidates’ ghouls all get a turn.

What I find amusing in all this is Trump, someone with no prior political background gets the magnifying glass and no one is saying “hey, what about the records and speeches of all the other RINO candidates?” Is it that they (media, TDSers, etc.) don’t speak Spanish and don’t listen to Rubio’s and Bush’s speeches?

Cruz is my candidate, first and foremost - always has been. And, there is an awful lot of good conservative will to speak about him. RINOs and the media and others aren’t discussing him honestly because they are deathly afraid of a one-on-one ,live confrontation with him so they’d prefer to take him out with money and a blackout. Fortunately, they all now have another more pressing problem to deal with - Trump. God bless him for that.

[flaglady47]

“Your post = When you can’t address the issue, change the subject.”

You ARE the issue, lol. That’s why you posted this anti-Trump article.

[nathanbedford]

This is not a Trump-vs.-Jeb race, and it never was.

I have been waiting for this truism to be published because I have been banging this drum for weeks. So many conservatives believe they are stopping Jeb Bush by backing Donald Trump and it was never necessary. Even when it has become clear that Bush cannot be the nominee, people still close their eyes to the reality of Donald Trump.

Donald Trump's tax policy superficially looks good but it will not stand for the kind of reform that is necessary in the eyes of conservatives who see the Republic rushing headlong toward a fiscal cliff. Cutting taxes is easy, but that does not balance the budget in the short term. Promises to cut waste, fraud and abuse are utterly illusory and simply will not happen. Promises to eliminate whole departments like education and environment sound wonderful but no president has succeeded ever and eliminating departments which have gotten their tentacles into all sections of the economy.

Trump would eliminate any income tax from huge demographics removing any disincentive for them to vote more largess for themselves. Worse, Trump promises to load on more debt with his expansion of free medical care. How much will he increase the deficits to revitalize the military?

He articulates only one specific so that he can claim political courage, raising taxes on hedge fund players, but all the rest of his ways of covering the budget shortfall, which he and his policies will only expand, are illusory. How to make up the shortfall? By growing the economy but that might not work anymore, witness Japan. How will he make up the shortfall? By cutting waste fraud and abuse, but that will work and we know. How will the make up the shortfall? With smoke and mirrors.

Trump has not presented a meaningful policy statement to reduce the debt, to balance the budget, or to reform entitlements. He has rendered a political paper, and not necessarily a conservative paper. We got more from Paul Ryan.

He is a politician who is promising more, demanding less and telling us that somehow he alone can make the twain meet.

[cripplecreek]

what I find really funny - and disturbing -is that now many of the same posters who would TOTALLY REJECT that line of reasoning with any other candidate or elected official in office....now take refuge in that kind of thinking to validate their support of DT.

Yup.

[dp0622]

Great post. Crux is my number one if he’s competitive. If Trump and Carson are competitive i’m voting for Trump.

Carson’s a nice guy but what did he do that past month to gain 10 points?

Cruz was brilliant on Colbert, and even though colbert tried to stick him, he was respectful and told the audience to shut up when they booed.

Cruz was too smart for him and got applause by the end!!

why oh wy is he at 6 percent!!!!! But hey, he’s very young, and Trump may pick him as VP

[Gaffer]

He is a 6% because he’s been blackballed - blacked out by the media in collusion with the GOPe. They won’t let him get his foot in the door if they can help it.

[Hugin]

Republicans ought to be demanding an end to progressive taxation in this country—a flat tax at minimum, with a potential move down the line to a consumption tax eventually if that can be done. We shouldn’t be settling for a simple whittling of tax brackets from seven to four.

Sure, like Republicans did when they had Congress and the White House for 6 years a decade ago. Trump is proposing something that will actually get done, not some ideal that will never get passed and that the GOPe doesn't really want anyway. And that will lower everybody's taxes except maybe ultra rich people who know how to avoid them.

[cripplecreek]

I have been waiting for this truism to be published because I have been banging this drum for weeks. So many conservatives believe they are stopping Jeb Bush by backing Donald Trump and it was never necessary. Even when it has become clear that Bush cannot be the nominee, people still close their eyes to the reality of Donald Trump.

The very same people who once claimed Trump was in it to help Cruz were either lying then or have betrayed Cruz now. Perfect little behavioral Boehner clones.

If you want to know why the country is in the kind of shape it is today, look to the complete and utter lack of moral courage on the right to see at least half the problem.

[Eddie01]

Who’s we?

[USS Alaska]

Your post = When you can’t address the issue, change the subject.

What issue? Trump is taking up too much oxygen? What the hell is that?

Your stupid, blind devotion to Scott Crawler, has made you hate the Trump and anything connected with him.

I'm with Cruz but I'm OK with Trump, but you are becoming a bitter, carping, crazy shopping cart pushing old lady smelling of cheap wine {and other things}.

Get a job, get a hobby, stop your bitchen about your baby boy not being given his turn at bat.

Walker quit because he had no principles regarding anchor babies {among other things}, couldn't raise money because people could see through his fake BS, and is now doing what he is good at doing, gubbernor of Wisconsin.

Give up your vendetta, it's not Trump's fault that Crawler was a lousy candidate.

[dp0622]

I dont know in my wildest dreams after watching the debate how carson gained 10 and Cruz stayed the same.

He was brilliant in the debate. Carson wasn’t that good.

[antidisestablishment]

But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark.

It’s not a Democrat versus Republican battle either . . .

[Gaffer]

Call me a racist, but I believe if the man were white, he wouldn’t have even been up on the stage.

[C. Edmund Wright]

And....you gotta love this....the very same people defending Trump’s cronyism and liberal connections in NY “because after all he was in NY” are those who where the most intolerant of any Mitt Romney “he was in Massachusetts after all” defenses.

I didn’t support Mitt...was extremely critical of him and his campaign in my book....but I am amused at this obvious blatant and hypocritical double standard that’s being applied.

[dforest]

These same uh, issues have been addressed over and over and over on numerous threads around here for days. The complaints have been disproven.

The repetitive pathetic whining over oxygen being sucked out of others is getting so old.

It is starting to have a beauty pageant feel to it.

Get over it. Walker couldn’t cut it. Good, he can go back and do his current job.

[dp0622]

you’re a racist lol. Just kidding. Of course i was thinking the same thing.

But I expected republicans to not have the white guilt that dems have. I guess some of the more moderate ones do.

I dont see presidential material in him. Didn’t know who fed chairman was, said that crazy thing about guys going into jail straight and coming out gay.

I know guys that have gone to prison. They dont talk about what they did in there, but the first things they want are a woman and a good meal when they get out.

[HamiltonJay]

What ridiculousness. Democrats are flat on their backs because they are exhausted from having their way with the republicans sphyncters. The republicans are flat on their backs as well. They have sold the country down the tubes just as much as the dems. Which is why none of the candidates in this field with the exception of Trump has managed to garner any traction.

The political class as a whole has completely lost touch with the electorate and the electorate is done with them. I’d love to see someone more ideologically “pure” be the next president but this crowd of candidates it ain’t gonna happen. The GOPe trying to force a bush down the throats of America shows just how out of touch they all are, and those that aren’t completely out of touch do not have the personality and are not able to connect.

Or to put it simply, it Trump is so bad and none of these guys can take down trump, why should they be the candidate in the general?