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Greece election: Alexis Tsipras hails 'victory of the people'
BBC News ^ | 9/21/2015 | BBC

Posted on 09/21/2015 5:38:03 AM PDT by Nextrush

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The results of yesterday's election in Greece show almost identical results from the last one.

Leftist Syriza leads and will be in coalition with the Independent Greeks, the conservative Greeks kicked out of the Republican type New Democracy Party for being anti-EU.

This government has been fighting the austerity measures of the EU (EUSSR) but has been under financial pressure from the banking elites to cave into continued and increasing debt under the 'austerity plan' that give the big bankers a bigger stream of debt payments.

I hear a lot of trashing of Syriza for its left wing position but it and the junior party of conservative Defense Minister Panos Kammenos are fighting against the notion of their country being forced deeper into debt to the bankers, which they have objected to.

1 posted on 09/21/2015 5:38:03 AM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

The problem with socialism is that you run out of other people’s money.


2 posted on 09/21/2015 5:42:50 AM PDT by Daveinyork ("Trusting government with money and power is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys",)
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To: Daveinyork

Yup. And we are fast running out of it here.


3 posted on 09/21/2015 5:44:51 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (It is about THE CROSS. It has always been and always will be about the CROSS!!!)
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To: RetiredArmy

And our credit rating agencies tell us we must constantly increase the debt ceiling or lose our credit rating.

If people pay off their credit cards their credit ratings go down, but if they make regular payments and maintain a large debt load ever increased by the financial services companies they have higher credit ratings.

Boehner and McConnell push the debt ceiling increases through Congress to make the banking elites happy and keep us owing to creditors from other places like Muslim countries.


4 posted on 09/21/2015 5:51:10 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

Dave Ramsey is right. Your credit score is nothing but an indicator of how well you kiss a*s to the banks.


5 posted on 09/21/2015 8:23:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Nextrush

From what I read it does not matter because they won’t be able to forge any sort of policy not agreed to by the EU. Basically, this new govt can claim it is anti EU but will have to serve as the tax collector and enforcer for the EU for the foreseeable future.


6 posted on 09/21/2015 8:35:16 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Nigel Farage of the United Kingdom Independence Party is one of the best political speakers in the world today.

He spoke at CPAC earlier this year warning the Republicans ‘don’t forget the Reagan Democrats’.

I guess Donald Trump must have heard that speech.

Farage also spoke of a corporatist system of government in his country bringing together the big banks, big business and big government.

That’s the problem in this country right now. The big people are squeezing the little people on issues like open borders, religious freedom, Obamacare and if one of those candidates out there can replicate Farage’s message clearly, they have a chance to get my support 100 percent.

I support Cruz right now, but he doesn’t get it the way Farage does or even Trump does, so Ted can’t win at this point.


7 posted on 09/21/2015 8:35:16 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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The problem with socialism is that you run out of other people’s money.

Except if you are socialist Germany. And Germany is "socialist" compared to what we have in the USA.

8 posted on 09/21/2015 8:36:57 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Syriza won just over 35%, down slightly on its previous result and still short of an overall majority. But it will renew its coalition with the nationalist Independent Greeks. Opposition New Democracy gained 28 percent. Far right Golden Dawn came in third with 7%, slightly up on January's poll.
The freeloaders won again, but lost ground.


9 posted on 09/21/2015 8:46:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: SunkenCiv

Stop abusing keywords you loser!


10 posted on 09/21/2015 12:08:53 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Sounds like your diaper needs changing.


11 posted on 09/21/2015 2:52:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wipe that Kerry sauce off you chin fool.


12 posted on 09/21/2015 4:42:31 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Nextrush

Possibly the most pointless General Election in a very long time.

Exact same result as previously, lunacy. The Greeks illustrate they need putting in the rubber room.

If their terrible economic position isn’t bad enough, they now have worse problems with the Greek Islands swamped by the Muslim horde....so the idiotic Greek people respond by putting the SAME Government back in, who’ll do ZERO to help on both counts, and that’s not sheer insanity?


13 posted on 09/21/2015 5:45:28 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: Nextrush

Spending cuts are a GOOD THING. A necessary thing. Those so called conservatives that are allied with his jerk are no conservatives at all.


14 posted on 09/21/2015 8:11:24 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: SunkenCiv; GeronL; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican

I can’t believe we have pro-Syriza freepers. Talking about “austerity” like it’s a bad thing. What in the F?


15 posted on 09/21/2015 8:13:49 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: SunkenCiv; GeronL; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican

And after an election that hardly changes the party standings I have to say, what a waste of money.

Still I have to give this commie twerp Alexis credit for not being as insane as some in his party, who broke off because he accepted a deal with creditors.


16 posted on 09/21/2015 8:16:37 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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>> Talking about “austerity” like it’s a bad thing. <<

Well, we have numerous "conservatives" who think letting individuals INSTEAD of government make decisions over their lives is "mob rule" and the most eeeeeeeeeeeeevil system ever devised, so I'm not surprised that “austerity” is a bad thing too. Hell, there's even some conservatives here who think the pledge of alliance is "marxist" and applauded some activist liberal judge for banning it. Nothing surprises me anymore.

17 posted on 09/21/2015 9:47:17 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Impy

This new government which is the old government will be fighting out the issues of higher taxes and spending cuts with the banking elites of the EUSSR in the coming monaths.

The Syriza led government did fight the EU over the notion of increasing the nation’s debt. Syriza opposed the notion of Greece increasing its national debt.

The story of austerity in nation after nation, even our own country, is that of increased debt. Republicans Boehner and McConnell keep rigging the votes to increase the debt ceiling of the USA.

The “Conservative Party” of David Cameron succeeded in doubling the UK national debt in its first four years of rule under ‘austerity’. Wonder what they will do this term?

The “Conservative Party of Canada” led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper also comes up empty on dealing with Canada’s increasing debt and now they face the voters on October 19th.

“Austerity” sees to mean more debt for nations with taxes raised and spending cut so more money can be sent to the banks to service the increasing debt load of nations involved in ‘austerity’ policies.

The credit rating agencies insist that the US and other nations increase their debt load to banks or lose credit ratings.

The relationship of nations to banks seems like that of individuals to credit card companies. Being deep in debt and not paying off bills creates a great credit score.

ITS TIME FOR NATIONS TO BRING THEIR SPENDING UNDER CONTROL WITHOUT INCREASING THEIR NATIONAL DEBTS ACCORDING TO THE DICTATES OF THE BANKING ELITE. I SENSE THAT THE BANKERS AREN’T ALLOWING BALANCED BUDGETS RIGHT NOW.


18 posted on 09/22/2015 12:13:53 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

Economics drive politics more than anything else and the fight over austerity in Greece and the demands of the EU for higher taxes and spending cuts dominate the thinking of average people.

The hordes of people are moving north through Greece with special ferries getting them off the islands as fast as possible.

If those hordes settled down in Greece the anger and support for the Golden Dawn party would rise and the ‘migrants’ would be a much more important issue for Greek voters.


19 posted on 09/22/2015 12:18:25 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Impy

Yeah, it’s odd, but nothin’ new. Oh, and Putin? He’s not an atheist. And he’s also anti-communist. Same folks.


20 posted on 09/22/2015 12:38:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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