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Cruz: Excluding Muslims from presidency is unconstituional
Minforms ^ | 9/20/15 | Staff

Posted on 09/20/2015 1:49:44 PM PDT by VinL

It would be unconstitutional to disqualify a Muslim from the presidency because of religion, Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz said Sunday.

“You know, the Constitution specifies there shall be no religious test for public office and I am a constitutionalist,” the Texas senator said during the taping of “Iowa Press” at Iowa Public Television.

Cruz was about Ben Carson’s televised statement that Islam is inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution. “I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that,” Carson said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.

Cruz also referred to the ongoing controversy raised in the media over whether Donald Trump should have corrected a man who incorrectly stated at a rally that President Obama is a Muslim and not an American. “My view, listen. The president’s faith is between him and God. What I’m going to focus on is his public policy record,” Cruz said.

One area in which Cruz did not mind excluding Muslims, however, was from the ranks of refugees from Syria seeking asylum in the United States. He said they should settle in other Middle Eastern countries, citing concerns that some of the purported refugees may actually be terrorists.

“I think the Christians are a very different circumstance because Christians are being persecuted, they are being persecuted directly for their faith and the Obama administration has abandoned Middle East Christians,” Cruz said.

Several other Republican presidential candidates weighed in on the issue of Syrian refugees Saturday during a forum in Des Moines. Mike Huckabee agreed with Cruz that the U.S. should exclude Muslim refugees but accept Christians. Rick Santorum argued that even the Christians should be assisted in the region so they can return home when the violence ends.

Following his visit at Iowa Public Television, Cruz visited with restaurant-goers at the Machine Shed Restaurant in Urbandale for more light-hearted discussions while Iowans enjoyed their morning brunch.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bencarson; captainobvious; carson; cruz; islam; muslims; naturalborncitizen; tedcruz
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To: BenLurkin

Barack Hussein Obama


101 posted on 09/20/2015 2:21:51 PM PDT by kabar
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To: VinL

Both Cruz and Carson are right. There can be no govt enforced religious. But we don’t have to vote for a moslem.


102 posted on 09/20/2015 2:22:00 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: VinL

Your question doesn’t make sense. Can you expand on it or clarify it somehow?


103 posted on 09/20/2015 2:22:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
So does suppressing my right to say, Islam is the enemy of freedom, intellect, and civilization.


104 posted on 09/20/2015 2:22:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: odawg

Great post! Even our best pols borrow trouble.


105 posted on 09/20/2015 2:22:50 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Steve_Seattle
Yes. My brother (a moonbat) rejected George W. Bush. My brother noted that George W. Bush was upfront about his Christian faith. My brother perceived this as violating the Constitutional rule mandating a wall between Church and State. "A Christian president turns us into a theocracy, just like Iran!" he said.

I do not talk politics with my brother. I listen. It just causes trouble if I try to educate him.

106 posted on 09/20/2015 2:23:02 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I've switched. Trump is my #1. He understands how to get things done. Cruz can be VP.)
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To: right way right
Oh brudda, the the anti Cruz sharks think blood is in the water.

Up to this point, the only person in the race I've been openly against is Carly Fiorina. Cruz hit that list today. He thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and yet this time, he smarted himself right out of the race IMO.

Pandering to a group is pandering, no matter how a Candidate does it. Cruz pandered to the mooslimes. He's done.

107 posted on 09/20/2015 2:23:17 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Can’t answer the question - can you???? Thought not.


108 posted on 09/20/2015 2:23:52 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: MeshugeMikey
..but it doesnt make sense to INVENT stuff..and pretend we “get” what “Isnt”

It makes sense to those who are deliberately trying to create confusion.

109 posted on 09/20/2015 2:23:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: VinL

Media concocted issue....surprise, surprise Gomer.

I’m surprised Cruz fell for it.


110 posted on 09/20/2015 2:24:07 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I support Cruz and Trump-DC corruption delenda est!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

I am a Cruz guy but he is incorrect here. Voters in America can discriminate based pon race, sex, religion, gender, transgender or eye color and nothing in the Constitution prevents them from doing so.


111 posted on 09/20/2015 2:24:07 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: VinL

Under current law, he is correct. However, the law can be reinterpreted to say that Islam is *not*, in and of itself, a religion, but a non-democratic system of government.

The biggest problem is that there exists *no* mechanism for excluding any candidate from that office. That is, even if a candidate is underage or not a US citizen, there is nobody who is tasked with stepping in and saying “no”.

However the Electoral College only votes for their candidates by tradition on the first ballot. They are under no obligation to vote for them. They can exclude a candidate who wins the popular vote, if they so choose.


112 posted on 09/20/2015 2:24:09 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: odawg
“I am a Constitutionalist” part — I won’t go there."

Because you are obviously NOT a Constitutionalist.
113 posted on 09/20/2015 2:24:13 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

it seems that some are rushing headlong into the dark with their eyes closed

THE CONSTITUTION??...hey this is BIG POLITICS here.

“why cant HE be more like The Prospective “Republican” Candidate from NYC?...”

God SAVE America!


114 posted on 09/20/2015 2:24:47 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: CatherineofAragon
You think he should have lied?

Anyone who bothered to fully read and understand what I wrote wouldn't be hurling such an accusation.

I clearly NEVER said that.

There is a difference between LYING, PANDERING and telling the TRUTH.

The truth is this: anyone who understands that Islam is a theocracy in which religion and government go hand in hand would acknowledge that islam is INCOMPATIBLE with the United States Constitution and our form of Government.

That's not a lie.

Now, why didn't Cruz tell the simple truth as I just did? Answer that.

115 posted on 09/20/2015 2:26:14 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: jwalsh07

am a Cruz guy but he is incorrect here. Voters in America can discriminate based pon race, sex, religion, gender, transgender or eye color and nothing in the Constitution prevents them from doing so.

Lets fo through this a step at a a time

Yes voters can discriminate

The Constitution DOES NOT

see how that works?

shall I quote what the Man SAID again ?


116 posted on 09/20/2015 2:26:39 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: P-Marlowe

What secret agreement did Cruz vote for? Obama’s Iran Deal and the TPP. He voted for fast tracking both of them before he read either of them.

***************8

Wrong, wrong and wrong. He has not voted for Obama’s Iran deal; TPP has not yet come up to Congress; and he has read both the TPA and the proposed TPP.


117 posted on 09/20/2015 2:27:00 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

Just out of curiosity, I have to ask: How can one uphold and defend the Constitution and at the same time comply with Sharia law?


118 posted on 09/20/2015 2:27:03 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: usconservative
I think the fact you're admitting to being a fool tells me not to bother wasting my time.

Right. "I know you are but what am I?"

ROFL. You're pathetic. And you're a fool.

119 posted on 09/20/2015 2:27:25 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: dforest; cripplecreek
"Nope, he said he would consider it. Does not mean you would hire one.

Read what was actually said at the link."

"I love the Muslims"

and

When asked if he would consider putting a Muslim in his cabinet or on his ticket:

"Oh, absolutely. No problem with that."

If he loves Muslims and is perfectly fine with the idea, why wouldn't he hire one?

120 posted on 09/20/2015 2:27:28 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...he will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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