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To: DoughtyOne

I have no problem with your post except the “go back” part. I was under the impression was conservative cite, where like minded people could discuss and debate. We are like minded people. I am not your enemy. We will both end up voting for the same person for Pres in Nov ‘16, even if it’s Trump - or Cruz - or Rubio etc.

Correct me if I’m wrong - and I’m sure you will - But I don’t think FR was intended to be Trump-Cult Headquarters.

And we are on the same side.

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post. Now I plan to watch some college football.


65 posted on 09/19/2015 10:14:46 AM PDT by theoilpainter
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To: theoilpainter
1. As opposed to THE DONALD, who was born wealthy and stayed wealthy, despite all the BKs.

2. Correct me if I’m wrong - and I’m sure you will - But I don’t think FR was intended to be Trump-Cult Headquarters.

Yes, Free Republic is Conservative central. For that reason we see a lot of newcomers as the campaign seasons heat up and we head into the general election.

While this is something we all want, it is also a time for gamesmanship, and problems as well.

We watch folks who come here during election cycles. We often see people who show up with an agenda who start revealing their mindset from the word go. To many of us, it appears like an operative, and those folks often don't remain long.

If someone comes and provides accurate information, no problem. If they come presenting information clearly designed to be untruthful (or even twisting the truth) to make someone look bad, to hurt a candidate, we'll call them on it.

Trump was lucky to be born in a relatively wealthy home. He did inherit a large business empire. It is also true that during an down-turn in the economy, his empire fell on bad times. Part of that may have been bad mistakes on his part. The fact is, he did turn his negative $150 million dollar net worth around, and today he is worth billions based on his own efforts.

If someone wants to say he was born to wealth and so what if he's wealthy now, they aren't providing a recitation of what the true situation was. Trump earned every penny of what he has today. His dad's fortune was wiped out, and Trump rebuilt the empire and increased it's worth to what it is today.

As for bankruptcies, they are legal. They can be better than the business going under, everyone losing their jobs, the local economy suffering, a slum situation developing, and the government at all levels losing a tax stream. Even the creditors who lose during a bankruptcy, can recoup some or all of their money by continuing business with the remaining firm. If the bankruptcy didn't happen, they would get fractions on the dollar, and not have the opportunity for continued business (profits).

Here's something you should know. (Particularly before you just flop a statement onto the forum without thinking.)

Although the decision to file bankruptcy should not be taken lightly, it is nothing to be ashamed of. It can be the first step towards your future personal and financial success. Below is a list of some great and other famous Americans who found it necessary to file bankruptcy.

Abraham Lincoln - 16th president of the Unites States- twice filed bankruptcy
Ulysses S. Grant - 18th president of the United States
Thomas Jefferson - founding father, author of the Declaration of Independence, 3rd president of the United States
William McKinley - 25th president of the United States
Walt Disney - as in Mickey Mouse and Disneyland
P.T. Barnum - filed for bankruptcy in 1871
Mark Twain - American author
Oscar Wilde - playwright
Henry John Heinz - condiment manufacturer famous for Heinz ketchup (my personal favorite)
Milton Hershey - founder of Hershey's chocolate
Henry Ford - automobile manufacturer
J.C. Penney - founder of the department store chain
Mickey Rooney - actor
Debbie Reynolds - movie actress and hotel/casino owner
Johnny Unitas - NFL Hall of Fame quarterback
Dorothy Hamill - figure skater, Olympian
Bjorn Borg - tennis star
Jerry Lee Lewis - rock and roll star
Burt Reynolds - shortly after his divorce from Loni Anderson
Nicholas Cage - actor
Donald Trump - filed two separate Chapter 11 for his hotels/casinos
Terrell Owens - NFL football player
Stephen Baldwin - actor
Jose Conseco - MLB baseball player
George McGovern - former presidential candidate
John Conally - Texas governor who was injured while riding with President John F. Kennedy at the time of his assignation

http://www.affordableattorneysgroup.com/famous-bankruptcy-filers/

Trump-Cult...

I'm sure you can't imagine why someone would think you might have come here with an agenda.

You need to bone up on your facts. Someone who challenges you based on what you have written, doesn't have to be a cult member. In fact, they might even have found one, and thus they are responding.

We do want new people here. We also like to think they would be informed before they start shooting their mouth off.

Raising questions about Trump is accepted. Uttered half truths and falsehood won't be.

Cult? Seriously?

You're going to have a fairly hard time convincing me you and I have the same overall views based on what you've provided up until now.

72 posted on 09/19/2015 11:01:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: theoilpainter

In the interest of accuracy...

I posted the Trump stats offered up by that site, without noticing an inaccuracy.

Four Trump corporations file for bankruptcy protection. All four were granted the protection.

The site stated it was two.


75 posted on 09/19/2015 11:08:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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