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After CNN Debate, Should You Jump On The Carly Fiorina Bandwagon?
Hardhatters ^ | 9/17/15 | Hal Hawkins

Posted on 09/18/2015 6:29:32 AM PDT by thetallguy24

It appears to be universally agreed upon that last night’s debate on CNN was Carly Fiorina’s moment to shine in the spotlight, and she did. The fight to get her as number 11 into the debate paid big dividends for her. She was poised, sometimes stern, and made a great connection between Iran and Planned Parenthood. Many have already jumped on to the Carly bandwagon, but there are still many unanswered questions about her that conservatives should demand answers for first before joining the group.

Was she that great of a CEO at HP?

According to her in the debate, yes she was. What does history say? Not really. Yes, she broke the glass ceiling at HP, but, if you had invested all of your money in HP’s stock the day she took control and sold it the day she left, you would have lost half of your wealth. As Politifact and many other sources have pointed out, HP’s net earnings dropped 22% from $3.1 billion in 1999 (her first year) to $2.4 billion in 2005 (her last). She claimed last night that she doubled the size of the company, but that was mainly the result of the Compaq merger not growth of HP by itself. According to Fortune, she also made “big promises” that failed mightily, noting “in December 2003, she told analysts that HP thought it could increase earnings per share by more than 20% annually.” However, that summer she had to announce that earnings would be 23% lower than expected causing HP stocks to drop. It appears that at HP, she was well known for big talk and empty results. It should also to be noted that she was fired from that position (stocks went up immediately after), and was given a handsome

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KEYWORDS: gocarlygo; gop; primary; prochoice; republican; trump
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To: Will88

Sort of like the old $64,000 Question TV show ...


21 posted on 09/18/2015 6:53:00 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: thetallguy24

I’ll give her serious consideration for VP or a cabinet post. We need somebody with the skills to kick congressional butt. Running a company and dealing with the senate and house are two completely different animals. In the former, everyone is your subordinate and must obey. In the latter, you are herding cats who have to have a good reason to go along.

FDR, JFK and RWR knew that congress reacts to public pressure and they used the bully pulpit to get things done. The next President will need good public speaking and persuasion skills and the ability to use them in the media. So far, none of the candidates whose policies I like have demonstrated those skills.

Christie and Huckster are good motivators but way too liberal. Trump is a little too combative. Fiorina is dour. Ted Cruz most closely matches my politics, but lacks likability. Rubio, Paul, Santorum and Walker look and sound like kids in an adult world. Jeb is dull. Carson is too unemotional. Kasich, Gilmore, Jindal and Pataki... Who cares?

I think Cruz and possibly Rubio or Walker can get some coaching and gain the necessary skills to be successful presidents, but so far, the fall far short of Renaldus Magnus. I just can’t see any way Trump or Fiorina will make good, persuasive presidents.


22 posted on 09/18/2015 6:53:29 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: thetallguy24
It may take some time, but Carly will be exposed and she will lose Republican support. The establishment and its backers will keep her propped up for as long as they can in the hopes of taking Trump down. They were using Carson for that purpose, but he crashed and burned early because he isn't qualified to be president.

As far as the general election, Dems and a lot of Independents, per blog comments, HATE Carly. She has no chance of being elected president and the GOP knows that. She is a useful tool, and nothing more. She can do a lot of damage though. People need to be careful because with Carly's help, we could end up with Jeb.

23 posted on 09/18/2015 6:59:56 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: thetallguy24

After her powerful performance, I’m already there.
Hugely impressed with her poise, intellect, and her direct answers.

She acted Presidential.


24 posted on 09/18/2015 7:01:45 AM PDT by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: thetallguy24

Carly did not belong on that stage by the original rules of the debate. She has a “rules do not apply to me” view on life and it showed in the debate


25 posted on 09/18/2015 7:02:09 AM PDT by BRL
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To: Poser

Put her where she can get rid of thousands of government employees and close up a few government agencies, that appears to be where experience lies.


26 posted on 09/18/2015 7:04:24 AM PDT by duffee (No money to the Mississippi Republican Party as long as joe nosef is chairman)
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To: thetallguy24

The RINOs and other Leftists are pushing her hard - ought to ring a few alarm bells...while being anti-abortion and wanting to defund PP, she has nothing that anyone else has to offer and a lot less than most.


27 posted on 09/18/2015 7:07:26 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: thetallguy24
Have any candidates gone after her on debate stage? Not counting Trump.
28 posted on 09/18/2015 7:08:56 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: thetallguy24

Aw hell no. She has some sort of facial issue with her crossed eyes and crooked lips that makes me dizzy when I look at her.

Carly, YOU’re FIRED,


29 posted on 09/18/2015 7:14:05 AM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: rrrod

Only if you’re prepared to deal with the disappointment the day after when the Dems have totally destroyed her with swiftboat-style attack ads featuring ex-HP employees.


30 posted on 09/18/2015 7:18:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: thetallguy24

Its the Carly’s Free Arena show. The wheels will come off the wagon soon enough. Not too many FReepers for Free Arena around here — with good reason.


31 posted on 09/18/2015 7:18:58 AM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: thetallguy24

Only if you would like to see her do to the USA what she did to HP.


32 posted on 09/18/2015 7:19:35 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: thetallguy24

God no.


33 posted on 09/18/2015 7:21:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: thetallguy24

I am most concerned with her saying illegal cannot be deported. Why not? Also, a really dumb statement was that she would not talk to Putin. What if there is a major crisis and he calls her - will she then hide from him?


34 posted on 09/18/2015 7:23:50 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: mkleesma
Karl Rove wants to run this woman because she will lose to Hillary.



35 posted on 09/18/2015 7:24:06 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: thetallguy24

No, I’ll still vote for a conservative. No need to waste time with iCarly.


36 posted on 09/18/2015 7:26:17 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Donald Trump: Quality Conservatism Since 2015.")
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To: duffee

Duff that’s a spot on point. Carly can head up the new ‘Cut Govt. Waste’ division. That’s about her speed and she would be good at it. Carly as president? No freakin’ way.


37 posted on 09/18/2015 7:28:46 AM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: duffee

“Put her where she can get rid of thousands of government employees and close up a few government agencies, that appears to be where experience lies.”

True. That’s what corporate CEO’s have to do from time to time. Corporations, like governments, become bloated. Every middle manager is trying to build an empire.

IRS Commissioner perhaps?


38 posted on 09/18/2015 7:39:13 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: thetallguy24

No.


39 posted on 09/18/2015 7:40:55 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: rrrod

Ha! Well if it is, save me a seat.


40 posted on 09/18/2015 7:42:31 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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