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Trump effect forces GOP rivals to raise game -- or lose (Cruz v.Walker)
Washington Examiner ^ | 9/14/15 | Byron York

Posted on 09/14/2015 10:00:47 PM PDT by VinL

Ted Cruz doesn't hesitate to express his gratitude to Donald Trump for bringing 24 million-plus viewers to the first Republican presidential debate last month.

"There is no doubt Donald Trump caused a whole lot of people to watch that debate who wouldn't have otherwise turned on the television," Cruz told me at a campaign event in South Carolina a few weeks after the Fox News debate. "So I am grateful for his attracting a whole lot of people who had the opportunity, perhaps for the first time, to hear my positive, optimistic, conservative message."

Without Trump, the first debate might have drawn six, eight, maybe ten million viewers — the same or a bit more as the most-viewed GOP debates in 2012. So the Trump effect meant that somewhere between 14 million and 18 million more people saw Cruz than would have been watching without Trump. Cruz is right to be grateful.

Of course, that's because a lot of those millions of viewers thought Cruz did well. The Texas senator has been on a slow rise in the polls ever since, moving from sixth place in the RealClearPolitics average of national polls on the eve of the debate to fourth position today.

On the flip side, if a candidate didn't do well in that first debate, Trump's presence meant a lot more people saw that, too. Take Scott Walker.

Some Republican candidates — not just Walker — approached the first debate believing it would be the Donald Trump show no matter what anyone else said or did. So they concluded their best bet was to play it safe, do a good enough job, and avoid any big mistakes. Hit a single and move on while the world buzzed about Trump.

But as it turned out, the debate wasn't just the Donald Trump show. Yes, news reporting focused incessantly on Trump. But a lot of Republican voters saw a bigger picture.

In the days after the debate, as the candidates resumed their campaign travel around the country, they realized viewers wanted more from them than playing it safe. Voters who were considering supporting Walker, in particular, wanted to see what he had to offer — and they didn't see much.

In the weeks that followed, Walker suffered a near-catastrophic drop in the polls — not all the result of the debate, but that certainly played a part. On the eve of the Fox News debate, Walker was in third place nationally, with 10.6 percent in the RealClearPolitics average of polls. Today, he's in seventh place with 4.2 percent.

In Iowa, Walker was in second place on the eve of the first debate, with 18.7 percent, less than a couple of points behind Trump. Today, Walker is tied for fourth place (with Carly Fiorina) with 5.7 percent.

In the first debate, Walker sought to present himself as a Washington outsider — a reasonable position for a governor of Wisconsin. But he has found that voters, at least for now, are most attracted to candidates who stand outside the entire political system.

Walker, with a career in government, can't do that. So he has doubled down, perhaps tripled down, on his image of himself as the Washington outsider. Starting with his recent speech at Ronald Reagan's alma mater, Eureka College, Walker has pledged not only to reform Washington, but to "wreak havoc" on Washington.

One dictionary definition of "havoc" is "great destruction or devastation; ruinous damage." Another is "a situation in which there is much destruction or confusion." It's not at all clear whether that's what voters want Walker or any other candidate to do.

On the eve of the debate, frustration is evident in the Walker campaign. "He is an outsider," one Walker team member said recently. "I cannot imagine people cannot look at his record and not say this man is truly an outsider, and he will take on these things and be a great president."

On Wednesday, thanks in large part to Donald Trump, Walker will have a chance to make a second impression on perhaps tens of millions of potential voters. This time, he and other candidates will realize that no matter how much the press fixates on Trump, voters will be looking closely at them, too — and expecting more.


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Christie, Paul will go for broke.

Bush, Carly, Walker will try to force themselves into the picture.

Cruz, Kasich and Rubio will stay Presidential.

Trump will be Trump.

Huckabee will preach to his choir.

1 posted on 09/14/2015 10:00:47 PM PDT by VinL
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To: VinL

And Trump will soar.

Basically, this race is Trump’s to lose.


2 posted on 09/14/2015 10:05:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: VinL

Rubio has never been presidential and cannot attain that status.

The man panders to racial supremacist organizations at their venues.

You have to be a drooling meth head to think that sort of behavior belongs in the presidency. Most of those are going with Bernie Sanders, so the potential constituency for Marco has been committed elsewhere.


3 posted on 09/14/2015 10:08:02 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: VinL

I am waiting for the Hugh Hewitt gotcha question to Trump about Dirkastan’s foreign minister’s favorite breakfast cereal.


4 posted on 09/14/2015 10:10:33 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: goldstategop

Donald may well go pole to pole- you might be right.

But, in this debate, there will be some professional agitators poking and prodding him- trying to get him to explode.


5 posted on 09/14/2015 10:11:13 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

During the first debate, Trump kept his cool in spite of 2 very offensive questions from moderators. Trump has personally dealt with thousands of very smart business people from all over the world. He will not lose his cool during the 2nd debate. He will not get into a food fight during the debate.

Business people who have a long history of success got there by not getting into a brawl.


6 posted on 09/14/2015 10:19:11 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors!)
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To: VinL

Your prediction sounds about right to me.


7 posted on 09/14/2015 10:20:16 PM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a fire"arm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: BigEdLB

Trump rally on the US Iowa BB tomorrow. Theme should be National Security.


8 posted on 09/14/2015 10:22:43 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: VinL


9 posted on 09/14/2015 10:24:16 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: entropy12

I hope you’re right. If Trump loses his lead, then Bush, Walker Rubio Carly— they all pop up. As a Cruz supporter, I don’t want that to happen.

I was just saying- these politicians aren’t business men- they’re professional agitators- esp Paul and Christie— they will try to goad him into looking un-presidential.


10 posted on 09/14/2015 10:28:46 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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I am 100% certain, there will be fierce attacks from Rand and Carly. That is the main reason CNN promoted her into the prime time debate, yet did not trim the field down to 10, because then Rand Paul would be out of it.


11 posted on 09/14/2015 10:42:47 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors!)
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To: VinL

At this point I wonder how much Trump has to gain from this kind of mass debate. At least he already knows it will be 1 vs. 10 (or maybe 9 if Cruz lays off).


12 posted on 09/14/2015 11:11:11 PM PDT by W.P. Wily
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"It's not at all clear whether that's what voters want Walker or any other candidate to do"

Yeah it is. Crystal clear.

But Walker is not the man for the job.

13 posted on 09/14/2015 11:17:02 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: VinL

Christie, Bush, Carly, Walker, and Huckabee are toast.


14 posted on 09/14/2015 11:17:51 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Step away from the Koolade.)
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To: VinL

Even if Cruz’s numbers are low, he’d be smart to stay in the race. If anything happens to the Trump candidacy, he will gather the lion’s share of Trump’s supporters.


15 posted on 09/14/2015 11:19:17 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Step away from the Koolade.)
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To: W.P. Wily
At least he already knows it will be 1 vs. 10 (or maybe 9 if Cruz lays off).

Cruz will attack the Democrats and the Republican establishment. He will not attack Trump.

16 posted on 09/14/2015 11:20:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Step away from the Koolade.)
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To: VinL

Rand failed miserably in the 1st debate. Christy is doomed. People didn’t like Bridgegate.


17 posted on 09/14/2015 11:22:14 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: VinL

Byron York is another pinhead pundit rooting for Jeb.

Meanwhile, both Cruz and Walker are crisscrossing the country setting up a vast grassroots network.


18 posted on 09/14/2015 11:23:32 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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Cruz will attack the Democrats and the Republican establishment. He will not attack Trump.

Yeah I hope he sticks to the plan, I like Cruz.

19 posted on 09/14/2015 11:23:35 PM PDT by W.P. Wily
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To: entropy12

By elevating Fiorina to the adult table, you can see their plan from a mile away.

Trump will be asked apologize to Fiorina during the debate.


20 posted on 09/14/2015 11:34:47 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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