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There should be no such thing as a government pension or a government union.

Even FDR opposed public-sector unions.

1 posted on 09/12/2015 9:45:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

When are Federal employees going to start paying into the Social Security ‘fund’ like the rest of us instead of their ‘Cadillac’ plan?


2 posted on 09/12/2015 9:49:34 AM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust: It corrodes 24 hours a day until eradicated.)
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Military retirement will be target next by these Democrats when they need more funding to buy votes.


5 posted on 09/12/2015 9:52:01 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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no govt pensions and no military pensions....we need to go to strictly 401ks like what's left of the private sector does....

it has to be done....but it won't be....

when so many are on the govt take, like the govt workers, and their numbers swell to a majority, which they are, then 51% can demand the 49% be killed if they wanted to...

6 posted on 09/12/2015 9:52:36 AM PDT by cherry
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Hard working public employees? Guffaw...


7 posted on 09/12/2015 9:53:29 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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Promises made should be promises kept.


10 posted on 09/12/2015 10:03:18 AM PDT by marron
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Sue the Democrat Party.

They have got LOTS of money.

Those lawyers just haven’t figured out how much money they could make suing the Democrat Party.


13 posted on 09/12/2015 10:08:29 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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I take it you’re also against other legal contracts.


14 posted on 09/12/2015 10:11:03 AM PDT by Postman (Flies landing on 0re0 know crap when they see it!)
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“Ron Lind is the public member of the California Public Employee Retirement System Board and is the former president of the South Bay Chapter of the AFL-CIO.”

No pension worries for him.


20 posted on 09/12/2015 10:23:21 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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All right! I just retracted my head out of my rectum.

Nothing like drunk-posting to get the right info on FR.

Then who doesn’t pay into it? Congress? Public employee/teacher unions?

I thought some significant group had their own plan.


21 posted on 09/12/2015 10:23:55 AM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust: It corrodes 24 hours a day until eradicated.)
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No government pensions.
No matching 401k.
You save what you want to save.
It’s public service, not a career.
Don’’t like it, get a real job.

The Government Monster needs to be reduced, that means FEWER GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.


23 posted on 09/12/2015 10:31:56 AM PDT by Macoozie ("Estoy votando por Ted 2016!" bumper stickers available)
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Better to solve the problem now than see what a bankruptcy judge will give them.


27 posted on 09/12/2015 10:43:54 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (CA the sanctuary state for stuzpid.)
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A legal analysis by Attorney General Kamala Harris

That's all I needed to know; if Comrade Harris opposes it, then it must be good.

29 posted on 09/12/2015 10:48:27 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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The entire system is corrupt.

We are suppose to live in a republic. However, once the elected representative begins taking money from special interest, the public are no longer being represented.

Politician take money from public employee unions.
When it comes time to negotiate new contracts,the politicians that have taken money negotiate good terms for the union.

No where in this process is the interest of the tax payer being served.

Any contract between public employee unions and the politicians should be null and void because of fraud.

The bottom line is no government, certainly at the state and local level, should be allowed to have any debt that carries over to the next year (with the exception of bond issue for major projects).


30 posted on 09/12/2015 11:06:09 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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One more thought on the subject.

Economics like physic, have “laws” that must be obeyed. Failure to do so will end up hurting.

As it is possible to over come gravity for a period of time, it is possible to pretend there is no end to amount of money a government can spend. Sooner or later, reality takes over and you will hit the ground.

The question is, will you do it under control circumstances (such as landing the plane) or wait until you run out of fuel and spiral into the ground?

Attempt to get spending under control is not cruel and mean spirited. Pretending there is not a problem and not even trying to fix it is cruel and mean spirited. If the unions wait until it is too late, they will end up with nothing.


31 posted on 09/12/2015 11:11:19 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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Hmmmm,

1. Pensions are promised.
2. Corrupt (is there any other) politicians spend all kinds of money on ILLEGAL ALIENS, giving them welfare, health care, driver’s licenses, etc.
3. Pension funds are insufficient.
4. Politicians want to increase taxes.

Question: Increase taxes, or off the politicians?


32 posted on 09/12/2015 11:33:42 AM PDT by Da Coyote (Di)
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Promises made with Money from Future Generations to pay for your WANTS TODAY are an Act of INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE and should be struck down as so. It is a Cowardly Act of SLAVERY!

If anyone here thinks the Promises should be Kept, I AGREE, and they should be Kept by SEIZING ALL ASSETS OF THOSE THAT MADE THE PROMISE! EVERY LAST PUBLIC SERVANT THAT MADE THE PROMISE


35 posted on 09/12/2015 12:01:02 PM PDT by eyeamok
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