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Navy Secretary Mabus rejects Marine report showing women perform worse than men in combat roles
The Washington Times ^ | September 11, 2015 | Kellan Howell

Posted on 09/11/2015 11:30:52 AM PDT by jazusamo

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus criticized Friday the findings of a new Marine report that all-male combat units perform better on a number of tactical tasks than mixed-gender units.

Mr. Mabus, the civilian secretary who leads the Navy Department — including the Marine Corps — has called for the Navy to open combat jobs to women, and said the latest report may have been tainted by negative attitudes from the beginning.

“They started out with a fairly largely component of the men thinking this is not a good idea, and women will not be able to do this,” he said in an interview with NPR.

The report, released Thursday, was conducted over a 9-month period at two separate training camps and is part of a Marine Corps experiment to study integrating women into the infantry in order to meet a 2012 order by then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to open all military jobs, including combat roles, to women.

Services must open all jobs to women by January, or else submit requests for exemptions to Defense Secretary Ashton Carter by the end of this month.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: combat; feminism; mabus; marinecorps; navysecretary; obama; women; womenincombat
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To: jazusamo

The guys will give special protection to the gal.


21 posted on 09/11/2015 11:44:42 AM PDT by Darroll
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To: jazusamo

Of course. Because Scty Mabus is an emasculated (but ambitious) toad for the administration.


22 posted on 09/11/2015 11:45:17 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Manus should require ONLY females in any of his security details. Just to show he’s serious. Also, any of his family members receiving security protection should be women only. Put up or shut up


23 posted on 09/11/2015 11:45:59 AM PDT by Josa
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To: jazusamo

So, in other words, Ray, the professionals who did the study MUST have been influenced by their own bias, because the scientific conclusions that they did produced do not agree with your bias?

That about it?

Seems pretty clear to me who is biased and for what reasons.

Those MARINES doing the report are willing to lay down their life for this nation...Ray...and so they are going to honestly look at what is best for the nation, and what is best for the Marines defending it...and not through some rose-colored political lens either.

Whereas you...well, you are a political appointee.

I think that about sums it up.


24 posted on 09/11/2015 11:46:17 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: stanne
That’s where women can’t take the heat, even if they’re running for prez

You do know that Carly was not the one to complain about that statement, right? It was other people that brought it up and pointed out that it was a juvenile comment to make. Carly said she didn't have time to worry about the comments from Trump.

25 posted on 09/11/2015 11:46:19 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: M1911A1

Marines don’t carry umbrellas. Hope that doesn’t catch SECNAV’s eye.

TC


26 posted on 09/11/2015 11:46:34 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: jazusamo
1998: Karsten Braasch vs. the Williams sisters

Venus competed in a "Battle of the Sexes", along with her sister Serena Williams, against Karsten Braasch at the 1998 Australian Open, who at the time was ranked 203th. A decade and a half younger than Braasch, who was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centered around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager."[56] He nonetheless defeated both sisters, playing a single set against each, beating Serena 6–1 and Venus 6–2.[6] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance." He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun."[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_Williams#1998:_Karsten_Braasch_vs._the_Williams_sisters

27 posted on 09/11/2015 11:46:46 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Qiviut
Reality & truth mean nothing to these Leftists.

They can't afford to let reality & truth intrude - their entire worldview is ga-ga.

So they demand we accept it instead. One day soon they'll be making their demands at the point of a gun.

28 posted on 09/11/2015 11:47:27 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Jeff Head

Well said, Jeff! You nailed it.


29 posted on 09/11/2015 11:48:31 AM PDT by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin....and the turkey has.)
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To: jazusamo

OKAY, lets find out which is true. Have an all female unit compete against an all male unit and a mixed male and female 50/50 unit. Have the people inhabiting the units be randomly assigned. Study the results, publish and abide by the results.


30 posted on 09/11/2015 11:49:10 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If God himself said every 50 years debt should be erased, and land returned, who am I to disagree?)
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To: jazusamo


31 posted on 09/11/2015 11:49:44 AM PDT by Iron Munro (CITY: A liberal run holding pen for useless headcount.)
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To: Terry L Smith

What makes you think anyone in command really cares?

Mabus is there to assure two things:
1) Equality of Outcome
2) His own continued employment.

If those two things are accomplished, what do a few dead Marines matter?

This ain’t our former military.
Grunts die so their CIC can feel good about himself.


32 posted on 09/11/2015 11:51:43 AM PDT by oldvirginian (A proud CRUZ CRAZY.)
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To: jazusamo

In a cost saving measure Ray is issuing beanie-copters to troops.

He’s ordered them to ignore the laws of gravity and use the caps to move across the battlefield.


33 posted on 09/11/2015 11:52:16 AM PDT by G Larry (Climate change is responsible for melting the logic synapses of leftists.)
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To: skeeter

One day soon they’ll be making their demands at the point of a gun.

*****************************

Obama has a good part of the country so inflamed and angry that I think people will be pointing (loaded) guns back in their direction. Not everybody, but enough to cause another civil war.


34 posted on 09/11/2015 11:52:59 AM PDT by Qiviut (Stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the cross; lift high his royal banner, it must not loss)
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To: Glad2bnuts
OKAY, lets find out which is true. Have an all female unit compete against an all male unit and a mixed male and female 50/50 unit.

Better yet, just train an all female combat unit, a homo only combat unit and a combat unit comprised of every other kind of oddball sexual deviate.

Then put them out in real combat on the front line.


35 posted on 09/11/2015 11:53:34 AM PDT by Iron Munro (CITY: A liberal run holding pen for useless headcount.)
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To: jazusamo

In other news, another report saying kids need both a mom and a dad was tossed in the trash, as was one indicting that some girls have a real problem with boys using their changing rooms.


36 posted on 09/11/2015 11:54:19 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: CA Conservative

I do know that. You’re right.

I’m just struck by the irony of people even Krauthammer making such a big deal out of a little mudslinging and it’s because she’s a girl.

Trump is going to insult a lot of people in the next year and in the years that follow.

And a lot of people will make fun of him.

They’re defending her because she’s a girl while they’re trying to get women into roles they are not suited for.

A girl can be president (a woman) just as well as a guy if she’s suited for it, but combat training like in the SEALS simply takes upper body and overall strength we girls do not have.

If we did, then women would play football and baseball professionally or on college teams, but since those are money making organizations no girls allowed.

I am a female. so I’m just saying, I think there should be all boys organizations as well as all girls’

I think a female can be president, but voting someone in for identity is a mistake

Carly I have no problem with.

It’s the reaction


37 posted on 09/11/2015 11:57:30 AM PDT by stanne
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To: CA Conservative

Not SEALS, Marines, my bad


38 posted on 09/11/2015 11:58:49 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Good post.

Nicely said.


39 posted on 09/11/2015 11:59:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (CITY: A liberal run holding pen for useless headcount.)
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To: Petrosius

Which president commissioned an investigation of the dangers of marijuana, and when the results back negating the premise, promptly denounced it? Reagan?


40 posted on 09/11/2015 12:00:50 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Voting is acting white.)
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