Posted on 09/10/2015 11:56:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
An experimental Marine Corps study obtained by the Monitor has concluded that units with both men and women are less effective than all-male units.
The results of the experiment, known as the Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force (GCEITF), could be used by the Marines as grounds to ask for an exemption to the combat exclusion policy, which currently bars women from taking part in direct combat.
The services have until January to open all jobs to women, or ask Pentagon leaders for an exemption by October.
The GCEITF included roughly 200 male and 75 female volunteers, who were evaluated on how they performed a series of physical combat tasks between March and May.
The results of the study come on the heels of news last month that two women passed the Armys grueling Ranger School and earned their Ranger tabs.
The Marine Corps conclusions have sparked criticism from female Marines and others, who argue that the study was poorly conducted and biased toward a belief that men are biologically and psychologically built to be better fighters.
Indeed, efforts to integrate combat units constitute social engineering, Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold, a former Marine infantryman who served as Director of Operations on the Pentagons Joint Staff before he retired, argued in an op-ed this week that was widely seen as laying the groundwork for the Marines experimental task force study release.
In introducing its conclusions, the Marine Corps cites the the brutal and extremely physical nature of direct ground combat, often marked by close, interpersonal violence.
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When is somebody going to fess up that that particular Army Ranger unit that included those two women, ALL received more rest and food than all other units before and since?
They really need a study for that?!
snake bite ;-o
Well, there were the Amazons, but they were all wiped out ...
I don't buy the bit about "psychologically built" but physically, most of us are small and have less muscle mass than men of the same height. In a job where physical strength is an absolute requirement, we *are* at a disadvantage.
or a crotch wound??....Good Lord!! She’s been hit by an AXE!!!.
They could have called me, and I'd've told that for nothing.
That ain’t me!
Didn’t know if groin injury was accurate
“An experimental Marine Corps study obtained by the Monitor has concluded that units with both men and women are less effective than all-male units.”
Good grief, it’s been true since the beginning of fighting history. The sexes are not the same physically, you idiots. The Obama Admin has got to go, fast, and the Pentagon is now stocked with mostly wimps. There should be total Marine mutiny here to stop this. Where are our fighters?
Given that much of the fighting today is in the Islamic world, your comment is irrelevant.
The study needs to be repeated until the proper outcomes are achieved.
Our faggy Commander-in-Briefs, his dovish wimpocracy and his subjugated, gagged Office Corps are gutting the military in so many directions it's almost impossible to keep up.
Not that quisling Obama will heed the report....in every issue he puts his own self, his ideology, his agenda and his legacy ahead of the safety and security of our citizenry.
Leni
In WWII our fighter pilots in the Pacific were pushed to the physical limits of fatigue and endurance due to the pace of the war, the stress and the harsh conditions.
If you read Greg Boyington’s bio, he recounts taking cigarettes apart and dropping tobacco into his eyes because the sting would keep him from falling asleep in the cockpit.
One of the best examples of a pivotal battle where both both sides are pushed to the limits was the Battle of Bastogne in France in during the Battle of the Bulge in WWII.
http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Bastogne.html
The Germans launched a surprise Christmas counter attack in one of the worst winters in Europe ignominy years.
Hold the City of Bastogne was critical to halting the German offensive and a contingent American Airborne Rangers was sent to hold it all costs until they were relieved. They were way outnumbered and out gunned but they fought a hard fight in extreme cold weather to the point of exhaustion for several days.
The German troops were similarly pushed physically as well
Our Airborne troops in Bastogne would have been over run were it not for the fact the Gen Patton pulled off one of the more amazing military accomplishments in military history by disengaging his troops and then fought their way to Bastogne to relive the Rangers.
To do so pushed Patton's troops to the breaking point as well.
There is simply no way women soldiers could have held up under such conditions.
If the Rangers had a large contingent of women present, Bastogne likely would have fallen long before Patton could relieve it which would've allowed the Germans to advance and succeed with their counter offensive.
Had Patton been required to cope with the physical limitations imposed by having to rely on a large number of women integrated into his forces, there is no way they could pushed as hard and fast as they did.
The outcome of Battle of Bastogne would have been much different if Gen Patton's III Army and Gen McAuliffe of the 101st Airborne had to go to war with the integrated Army being proposed by feminist's
The same be said for the Marines in any one of a number of Pacific islands or Okinawa, but a better object lesson would probably be the Chosin Reservoir during the Korean War.
http://www.chosinreservoir.com
On the other hand, in his biography, Col Robin Olds compliments the superb, precision airmanship of the female WAC pilots who delivered the new P-51 Mustang fighter planes when his squadron converted from the P-38 Lightnings they had been flying.
This is just simple reality.
The big danger with we face from the leftist liberals purhingtheir agenda is that they are so committed to their ideological positions that ideology trumps reality in their decision making process.
War and combat is brutal in exposing the misconceptions and false assumptions that occur when a peace time army is shown it's lack of preparedness and blind spots as America learned at the Kaserine Pass in at the start of WWII.
We see the same thing happening in Europe in response to the Muslim Refugee invasion. Europeans are so bought into their politically correct world view that they simply cannot accept that they are facing a hostile invasion of Jihadi revolutionaries bent on Islamic domination of Europe and not a legitimate humanitarian crisis
And this is experiment is only in training? The israelis tried it and they found that in real combat the performance of mixed units goes down much more markedly, especially when a female becomes a casualty - it has a deeper physiological effect on their male comrades than a male casualty would have. Some aspects of human nature, it seems, can’t be legislated for!
In related news, water is wet.
..or that they are both generals' daughters?
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