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Immigration and Freedom
Townhall.com ^ | September 3, 2014 | Judge Andrew Napolitano

Posted on 09/03/2015 7:42:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/03/2015 7:42:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What a twat. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! ILLEGAl IS ILLEGAL!


2 posted on 09/03/2015 7:45:06 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: Kaslin

This guy doesn’t understand the issue


3 posted on 09/03/2015 7:45:38 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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Sorry, Judge N. I have a lot of respect for Judge Napolitano, but he’s wrong here.

You can’t decouple natural rights from responsibility. When the government forces people to support invading aliens, regardless of their backstory, it is committing oppression. People have a natural right to life and liberty, and to self-defense and self-determination.

Napolitano’s interpretation would mean that what’s mine is theirs, but not vice-versa. Also, he’s a learned judge—why is he ignoring the discussion that occurred in Congress before passage of the 14th amendment? Why is he blowing off the “and subject to thereof” language?

Why not quote the Justice who said “The Constitution is not a suicide pact?”


4 posted on 09/03/2015 7:46:10 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Kaslin
Judge Andrew Napolitano

Never figured he was on the establishment bandwagon....


5 posted on 09/03/2015 7:46:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: freebilly

All people who come here illegally to drop an anchor baby should immediately be deported. The kid can stay if the parents want him/her to grow up in institutional care or a foster home....


6 posted on 09/03/2015 7:47:23 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: Fai Mao

Nap is a libertarian who believes in open borders.


7 posted on 09/03/2015 7:49:41 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Kaslin

I would argue that the possession of a Mexican Consular card makes them effectively agents of Mexico, and not under American jurisdiction. “Invaders” may be a harsh term for most contexts, because it conveys a sense of violence, occupation and plunder. But in terms of the legitimacy of illegal immigration vis a vis the Mexican government, it is accurate. More the most part, these people aren’t fleeing their government; they are acting with the active support of their government. They do not intend to become Americans, but to change America’s laws and customs to suit their demands. And, inasmuch as most either receive taxpayer-funded benefits or send money home, and the Mexican government now relies on such relief, it may even accurately be said they do seek to plunder.


8 posted on 09/03/2015 7:49:44 AM PDT by dangus
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All people who come here illegally to drop an anchor baby should immediately be deported. The kid can stay if the parents want him/her to grow up in institutional care or a foster home....

So you support birthright citizenship? Many birth tourists come here, have the baby, get the US passport for their child and then go back home with the child. The child is an insurance policy. He/she can return at 18 and be able to sponsor a spouse and children. At 21, he/she can sponsor the parents, siblings, uncles, aunts, etc.

We should eliminate birthright citizenship period.

9 posted on 09/03/2015 7:53:27 AM PDT by kabar
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Just because a kid is born here does not mean that the parents do not have the responsibility to take the kid home and raise it. whether birthright citizenship is real or not, people are responsible for their spawn and being a US citizen does not mean that the government has to raise you. You go with your parents.

Heck does this mean that when parents travel they can just drop their kids off with the government?


10 posted on 09/03/2015 7:56:13 AM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: Kaslin
*victims of public indifference and government repression RAPE, MURDER, ROBBERY, LESS OPPORTUNITY are Hispanics NATIVES in America*

There. Fixed it.

11 posted on 09/03/2015 7:56:47 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are those committed by illegal aliens)
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Again, it IS NOT IMMIGRATION, it is invasion. These people are not here to stay and assimilate. They have no intention of learning our language, culture or anything other then directions to the welfare office.

This is an invasion and not only from the south, it is also coming from the mid-east. Using the term immigration is a distraction and not what is happening. As long as we keep discussing whether they are here as immigrants, legal or otherwise, we are being led astray from the facts of the issue.

Lets re-frame the issue to what it is and not some vague legal point.


12 posted on 09/03/2015 7:58:32 AM PDT by JayAr36 (A country without borders is not a country. Where did America go?)
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To: Chickensoup

So you are agreeing with me? I don’t understand your comment relative to my post.


13 posted on 09/03/2015 7:59:35 AM PDT by kabar
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To: central_va

He’s not so much “establishment” as pointy-headed, pie-in-the-sky, open-borders libertarian.

Sometimes their nutty “erase all government,” “erase all borders,” “erase all military,” “erase all law enforcement” notions are as unrealistic and dingbat utopian as those who were swayed into joining hippie communes.


14 posted on 09/03/2015 8:01:30 AM PDT by greene66
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To: kabar

Yes I am, and I was also including the person you were responding to although now I see I didn’t include them in the header.


15 posted on 09/03/2015 8:01:52 AM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: Kaslin
His honor is flirting with the Dark Side on this one.

ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL. And the libtards LOVE illegals for the reason set forth below.

The "progressive" left -- which either ignores or cannot deal with facts -- grasps this one quite well as it is integral to their plan to take complete control of the political system here.  The vast proportion of these "immigrants" will immediately take advantage of the comfy welfare "hammock"  the left has put in place, often AHEAD of indigenous citizens.   These new welfare recipients will -- once the left does away with voter ID -- develop a warm/fuzzy feeling for and become supporters of the Democrats.   When the system finally collapses under the burden (Cloward-Piven), the ensuing unrest and turmoil will soon have all of the poor, most of the now devastated middle class and much of the very wealthy leftists who created and will be orchestrating the mess demanding that someone RESTORE ORDER!  And ORDER we shall have.  But it will NOT be the sort most older citizens would recognize. The exceptions would be those from Germany, Soviet Russia under Stalin, Cuba under Castro...you get the idea!

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16 posted on 09/03/2015 8:03:14 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: kabar

Hey, if some @$$h@t illegal wants to have a baby here they leave, period. If they want to keep their child they can. We’re a compassionate people....


17 posted on 09/03/2015 8:11:02 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: Kaslin

It’s a constitution, not a suicide pact.


18 posted on 09/03/2015 8:16:09 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is useless, and it makes you complicit.)
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Hey, if some @$$h@t illegal wants to have a baby here they leave, period. If they want to keep their child they can. We’re a compassionate people....

WWPTD...? What would President Trump, do...?

19 posted on 09/03/2015 8:17:04 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: dangus

Bingo! When I immigrated legally in 1966 i received a Green Card from the Immigration Office upon my arrival at Fort Dix after our plane landed when my husband was transferred from his duty station in Germany back to the states. I sure did not get my visa from the German Embassy, but from the American Embassy in Munich


20 posted on 09/03/2015 8:19:16 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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