Limbaugh:Trump Movement Exposes Low Regard Conservative Intellectuals Have For Ordinary Americans

Breitbart.com ^ | September 2, 2015 | Jeff Poor

[Biggirl]

Wednesday on his radio show, conservative talker Rush Limbaugh discussed the backlash within certain conservative circles to the candidacy of GOP front-runner Donald Trump. Limbaugh specifically focused Wall Street Journal columnist Bret Stephens, who unleashed a scathing attack in the Journal earlier this week aimed at Trump and his supporters.

[cookcounty]

Just to pick out one from your list (could do many more):

"Wants to repeal Obamacare and replace it with market driven polices and increased competition among insurance companies."

Last month he was touting the glories of the HillaryCare single-payer approach (i.e., total gov't control) of "Scotland" and "Canada."

He's on all sides of every issue depending on which way the wind is blowing, a political chameleon, who saw no problem pouring cash into Pelosi's DCCC, because, he, it might help him make another Almighty Dollar.

As for the comparisons with Reagan that Trumpeters like to make, Ronald Reagan left the Democrats at the age of 40, then had a long period of advancing conservative ideals. It's taken Donald until his 60's to figure out what's going on.

[Osage Orange]

Smart!!

[Osage Orange]

opprobrium....

Cool word!!

[Osage Orange]

I agree with you both....

But it's early....

[djf]

I recently read a George Will assessment of Trump supporters and was stuned.

We are all apparently knuckle-dragging cave men who live in mobile home parks...

This is the reason parties are being abandoned. From both sides of the aisle.

[Amntn]

"Last month he was touting the glories of the HillaryCare single-payer approach (i.e., total gov't control) of "Scotland" and "Canada."

That was his view in 2000 before Obamacare was even a thought.

If you remember, it was one of the gotcha questions in the debate.

In his book published in 2011 he states the need to repeal Obamacare and promote free market insurance as stated above.

[tophat9000]

. I am going to call the GOPe “Tories” from now on.

See my new tag line

[kempster]

I like the phrase “Americanism”!

[9YearLurker]

How many of his dpeeches, presders, and interviews have you watched?

I suspected the same six weeks ago, but I am now absolutely convinced that he’s sincere on “Making America great again”. He does get our view in numerous eays, even though some of his past positions—and defenses thereof—are a bit messy.

[itsahoot]

Conservatives have no reason to believe that Trump is one of us, except - perhaps - on the one issue of illegal immigration.

You have no reason to believe any of those we elected are conservatives.

He also today said, what good has it done us to vote for those that espouse Conservative issues yet never seem to get anything done? They don't even talk up the issues after election.

[itsahoot]

(Cruz, for one) could stake out a position on illegal immigration

Could but hasn't, maybe that is why he is at less than 10%.

[SaraJohnson]

“Tories” does it for me, too. Thanks.

[Yosemitest]

Pearls of Wisdom
September 02, 2015

"I love conservatism; I am one.
But what good is it if all you do is write about it?
Do the liberals write about liberalism, or do they do it?
There needs to be some implementation at some point,
some advocacy for implementation at some point,
or being a conservative is meaningless."

"It's not the Democrat Party attacking carried interest.
Have you noticed that?
The Democrat Party, whenever they talk about raising taxes, they always exempt the hedge fund people."

"The Democrats are not making a move on carried interest and haven't.
They're trying to protect the hedge fund guys because most of the hedge fund guys are big Democrats, a good percentage of them are,
as are a lot of the Wall Street CEOs,
as are a lot of media CEOs.
They're all liberal Democrats."

"The Democrat Party, contrary to what everybody thinks, is NOT circling the wagons and DEFENDING the little guy.
The Democrat Party's in bed with Wall Street.
That's why Bernie Sanders is not going to get the Democrat Party nomination
no matter what
because he's serious about implementing policies that would PUNISH those people financially."

"If I know Trump, he'll have a codicil to his tax increase,
and it will be an option not to pay it."

"When Buckley passed away it became an open competition for who was gonna replace him.
Who was gonna be Mr. Conservative?
Who was gonna be the guy that determined what was and who was
and what isn't and who isn't conservative.
The battle's NEVER been WON.
I mean, there is no singular figure, particularly in the literary world, to have filled the Buckley role.
It's an ongoing competition."

"I have NEVER thought of Donald Trump as a conservative.
And I've never felt like, well,
he's not worthy of speaking on things I believe in
'cause he's not a conservative.
That's not my attitude.
I know he's NOT a liberal.
I know he's nowhere near what modern day liberalism is."

"All of this support for Trump, this movement,
whatever you call this that's happening with Trump,
it's NOT about conservatism.
And that doesn't bother me.
But some in the conservative movement are pulling their hair out over this."

"People supporting Trump are not supporting Trump 'cause they've been fooled or bamboozled or told to.
It's because of real things happening in the country that apparently some don't see."

"I RESPECT, and always have, the intelligence of those of you in this audience.
There's not a moment of condescension here, not real condescension.
There may be moments of satire and parody."

"When you began to note that your own party was falling for this insane idea
that the only way it could ever win the White House
was to emulate the Democrats on ILLEGAL immigration,
that was it.
There was no way you were ever gonna be convinced of that.
That was absurd. It was silly.
It remains absurd. It remains silly to this day.
Mitt Romney, had he gotten 70% of the Hispanic vote, would have still lost the presidency."

"Everybody who's even paying halfway attention knows full well
that ILLEGAL immigration is nothing more than a voter registration drive FOR the Democrat Party.
And people who have been donating to the Republican Party for all these years can't figure out
WHY the Republicans don't see that."

"There's NO immigration policy being followed here.
There's NO immigration protocols being followed here.
This is AN INVASION.
We're being overwhelmed at the Southern border."

"We're not talking immigration anymore.
Immigration is made up of people who've been IN LINE for years.
They're filling out the forms.
They're doing everything the law requires,
and not nearly enough of THOSE people are getting in."

"This ISN'T politics-as-usual here.
We've just SECURED Iran getting a nuclear bomb, for crying out loud.
Does anybody really know WHAT THAT means?"

"I'm even cooler than many of you thought I was."

"What in the world has even happened to the political instincts of the opposition party?"

"Even if you DON'T have the votes, you don't think, to override a veto, MAKE HIM veto it.
DEFUND Planned Parenthood!
Everybody in the world needs TO FIND OUT what's happening in that place."

"With this Republican debate, CNN is gonna get the biggest audience they've had for...
Well, since the Malaysian jet."

"The desire to raise taxes on the hedge funds, get rid of carried interest, is not an idea that originates with Trump.
It's been floating out there."

"The tax code to the Democrat Party is social architecture.
The LAST thing they care about is whether or not it raises any revenue."

"A lot of industries come up with their own lexicon, their own language.
It's a way of identifying who's in and who isn't."

"If Jeb is telling people in Spanish
that Trump isn't a conservative,
does that mean that Hispanics WANT TO ELECT a conservative ?
Because we're not told THAT.
Just a little thing to think about there, folks."

"Within the conservative movement, you have all kinds of people.
You have conservative intellectuals.
You have the conservative intelligentsia.
You have the rank-and-file.
You have the magazine and website editors and writers.
It's an entire menagerie of people."

"What good are conservative principles if all that's ever done with them is writing?
What good are conservative principles if all anybody ever does is talk about them?"

"Occupy Wall Street was everything the Tea Party wasn't.
Occupy Wall Street was made up.
It was designed.
It was planned,
it was executed, it was created, and it was created as a counter."

"The Republican Party was, in my estimation, given -- not for anything they did -- a majority.
And the Republican Party made NOT ONE MOVE to EMBRACE the Tea Party."

"You can only tell people they're UNsophisticated so many times
when they're staring the loss of their country in the face
with this INVASION, ILLEGAL immigration, and ObamaCare,
and all of these executive orders that Obama's doing.
And there's not A SINGLE OUNCE of APPARENT opposition TO ANY OF IT !"

"Snerdley's getting a lot of callers today from people who are supposedly supposed to be scared of me.
Young women -- you know, 19-, 22-, 24-year-old women --
they're supposed to be afraid of me
'cause they don't like being yelled at or some such thing.
That's what I was told,
but here they are.
They're calling in in droves!
Massive, massive demographic reach evidence here today."

"I don't have a candidate yet.
I have respect for a lot of these people.
I have like for a whole lot of them."

[Yosemitest]

Reference your graphic:

Some Views on Trump of Various Public Figures - Positive vs. Negative (Quality vs. Quantity)

These people have praised Trump. - Dr. Ben Carson - Ann Coulter - Ted Cruz - Rudy Giuliani - Newt Gingrich - Rev. Franklin Graham - Sean Hannity - Carl Icahn - Laura Ingraham - Mark Levin - Rush Limbaugh - Ted Nugent - Sarah Palin - Jeff Sessions - Mark Steyn

These people have bashed Trump. - Bret Baier - Joe Biden - Wolf Blitzer - John Boehner - Davic Brock - Jerry Brown - Jeb Bush - Chris Christie - Bill Clinton - Hillary Clinton - Bill De Blasio - Cardinal Timothy Dolan - Erick Erickson - Carly Fiorina - Jim Gilmore - Lindsey Graham - Brit Hume - Al Hunt - Valerie Jarrett - Megyn Kelly - Charles Krauthammer - Bill Maher - Ricky Martin - Chris Matthews - John McCain - Mitch McConnell - Michael Medved - Barack Hussein Obama - Rosie O'Donnell - Bill O'Reilly - Rand Paul - George Pataki - Rick Perry - Jorge Ramos - Harry Reid - Geraldo Rivera - Mitt Romney - Karl Rove - Marco Rubio - Bernie Sanders - Rick Santorum - Al Sharpton - Shepard Smith - George Soros - Bret Stephens - Scott Walker - Chris Wallace - Elizabeth Warren - George Will - Neil Young

Remember this.
George Will is a DemocRAT who got SO OFFENDED by the DemocRATS, that he couldn't tolerate being associated with all those "CRAZIES" .
Now for a deeper understanding of just WHO George Will IS:

The word "neocons" is ONLY used by LIBERALS, trying to insult Conservatives.
The is no such thing as a "NEW" Conservative.
Conservatives ARE Conservative, plain and simple.

But read this"
Liberals, Conservatives, and Neocons — Learn the Difference!
March 12, 2014

Almost everybody is confused about the word "neoconservative" and its shortened form, "neocon."
I find that liberals/Democrats seem to use it as a sort of disrespectful form of "conservative,"
and probably have no idea the the words have distinct meanings.
On the other hand, I know of some conservatives who define it as "new conservatives,"
meaning people who were formerly something else, but have converted to conservatism.
Both are wrong.
As near as I can tell, "neo-" doesn't apply to any other word that way —
formerly not X, but having become X.
No, "neo-" almost always refers to an ideology that is different from the root word in a significant way.
Neoconfederates are not people who want to secede and become a separate country.
They want the ideals of the Confederacy to be applied to modern politics, more or less, but not all of them.
Neoliberal is a more vague term,
but it specifically applies to people who may have SOME of the attributes of liberals,
but who contradict liberalism in their advocacy of free trade and privatization
and other ideas usually thought of as conservative.
And, finally, neoconservatives are mostly those moderate cold war LIBERALS who defected to the Republican party when the Democrats got totally flaky with McGovern and his ilk.
Their ultimate origin, however, is not the Democratic party but the Trotskyite movement.



Jack Kerwick elaborates.

Read this:
Most "Conservatives" Are Secretly Neoconservatives
12 March, 2014, by Jack Kerwick, Ph.D.

A colleague of mine has drawn my attention to a Washington Post blog post — “Why Most Conservatives Are Secretly Liberals” — by a Professor John Sides, a political scientist at Georgetown University.

Sides agrees with fellow political scientists Christopher Ellis and James Stimson, co-authors of Ideology in America.
Ellis and Stimson CONTEND that
America is, at bottom, a “center-left nation,”
for while “30 percent” of self-described “liberals” are consistent in endorsing “liberal” policy prescriptions,
the same sort of consistency can be ascribed to only “15 percent” of “conservatives.”
And another “30 percent” of “conservatives” actually advance “liberal” positions.

In short, Americans may TALK the talk of “conservatism,” but they WALK the walk of “liberalism.”
That is, they favor Big Government.

Sides, Ellis, and Stimson, it seems clear to me, are “liberals.”
It doesn’t require much reading between the lines to discern this.
That they associate “liberals,” and “liberals” ALONE, with such virtues as “consistency” and such lofty ideals as “a cleaner environment” and “a stronger safety net” is enough to bear this out.
Yet in peddling the ridiculous, patently absurd notion that
“conservatives” see the media as PROMOTING “conservatism,”
the verdict regarding their “liberalism” is seen for the NO-BRAINER that it is.

There is, though, another CLUE that unveils Sides’, Ellis’, and Stimson’s ideological PREJUDICES:
They equate the term “liberalism” with a robust affirmation of Big Government.
They treat “liberalism” synonymously with its modern, “Welfare-Statist” incarnation.
There is no mention here of the fact that, originally, “liberalism” referred to
a vision that attached supreme value to individual liberty,
a vision in which government played, and had to play, a minimal role in the lives of its citizens.
And there is no mention of the fact that, if “liberalism” is now “an ugly word,”
it is because the very same socialists who made “socialism” an ugly word hijacked “liberalism” when it enjoyed a favorable reception
and visited upon it the same fate that they secured for “socialism.”

In other words, if Sides himself wanted to be bluntly honest, he’d have to admit that “liberals” are secretly socialists.

Still, though their premises are bogus, Sides and his colleagues draw the correct conclusion that
most “conservatives” are NOTHING OF THE KIND.
The truth of the matter is that
the vast majority of contemporary “conservatives” are neoconservatives.

Now, “neoconservatism” is a term that hasn’t the best reputation.
It has ALWAYS BEEN CONTROVERSIAL,
and most of its proponents have DISAVOWED IT to the point of, preposterously, condemning it as an “anti-Semitic” SLUR.
But George W. Bush and his party inflicted potentially irrevocable damage upon the label.
“Conservatism” is a more marketable label.

Nevertheless, the reality is that neoconservatism is indeed a distinct school of political thought.
Beyond this, it is fundamentally different in kind from classical conservatism.
Irving Kristol, the so-called “Godfather” of neoconservatism, an appellation that he readily endorsed, ADMITS this in noting both
that neoconservatism exists
and that “conservative” “can be misleading” when used to describe it.

Neoconservatism, you see, is THE INVENTION OF LEFTISTS like Kristol himself.
When the Democratic Party began veering too far to the Left in the 1960s, Kristol and more moderate leftists began turning toward the Republican Party.
So as TO DISTINGUISH THEMSELVES FROM traditional conservatives, they coined the term “neoconservatism.”

Neoconservatives, Kristol asserts, are “not at all hostile to the idea of a welfare state” —
even if they reject the “vast and energetic bureaucracies” created by the Great Society.
Neoconservatives ENDORSE “social security, unemployment insurance,” and “some kind of family assistance plan,” among other measures.
But what’s most interesting, particularly at a time when ObamaCare has DIVIDED the country, is that Kristol reminds us that
neoconservatives SUPPORT “some form of national health insurance.”

In all truthfulness, however, neither a degree in political science nor an IQ above four is required to know that
neoconservatism has always championed Big Government
for it is its foreign policy vision more than anything else that distinguishes it from its competitors.
For neoconservatives, America is “exceptional” in being, as Kristol puts it, “a creedal nation,”
the only nation in all of human history to have been founded upon an “ideology” of equality, of “natural rights.”
The U.S.A., then, has a responsibility to promote this ideology throughout the world.

And it is by way of a potentially boundless military — i.e. Big Government — that this “ideological patriotism” is to be executed.

Had the foregoing political scientists been looking in the right places, they would BE FORCED TO CONCLUDE that most “conservatives” are secretly neoconservatives.

So, you see that those WHO THEY CALL "neoconservatives", are really nothing more than the old moderate side of the DemocRATS.
It's just THAT SIMPLE .

[DouglasKC]

I almost think he’s a liberal Trojan Horse, intended to disrupt the normal Republican primary process and throw it into chaos.

The normal Republican primary process was rigged to put Jeb Bush as the nominee. Nobody else had a chance. With Trump it not only gives him a chance but Cruz as well.

[Pelham]

“and Hewitt protests as a debate moderator he cannot comment,”

Before Hewitt was selected to be a moderator he was openly contemptuous of Trump.

While we think of Hewitt, Medved, Shapiro, Prager as ‘KRLA’ here in SoCal, across the country they would be Salem Radio under a variety of call signs.

Levin really isn’t part of the inbred neocon Salem crew, he’s a late addition to KRLA because it gives him a drive time slot that he didn’t have over on KABC

[kcvl]

Stephens was born in New York City, the son of Xenia and Charles J. Stephens, a former vice president of General Products, a chemical company in Mexico.

[kcvl]

He was raised in Mexico City, where his father worked. In his adolescence he attended boarding school at Middlesex School in Massachusetts. After graduation, Stephens studied political philosophy at the University of Chicago. He earned a master’s in comparative politics from the London School of Economics. He is married to Corinna da Fonseca-Wollheim, a music critic who writes for the New York Times. The couple have three children and reside in New York City.

[moehoward]

"Krauthammer, Will, Rove, Perrino, etc etc all take their turns, as the FOX news Bush fan club."

Dontcha like the way Rove uses some pretzel logic that places trump in a tie with one or more, then Trump is listed last on his retard whiteboard.

Kelly does the same thing with Carson catching up to Trump in that Iowa poll. Carson catches up, but Trump gets listed second.

[Jimmy Valentine]

You were doing fine until you muddled up “elitist” with “elite”. Milton Friedman was truly elite as opposed to the other poseurs out there who shallow and intellectually dishonest are elitist in their attitude