Posted on 08/31/2015 8:37:24 AM PDT by Bill Russell
Do they call them ladies like they would the men.
When I see women in the NFL (and they would love to have them), I will believe this crap.
It’s not even completely about their strength
And if I have to explain it....well you ain’t never gonna get it
Here's a woman in the NFL...and I would love to have her...
Absolutely agree.
Start forces all amateur and professional sports teams to have a number of women play. Have the most qualified women playing for the football teams, basketball teams etc.
Why not? If its good enough for our military, fire departments, police etc. it should be good enough for sports.
I should have added, “not including place kickers” which some women could actually do, at least for extra points and short field goals.
But it is when it all comes down to it. M lovely wife loves me, but she cannot pick me up and carry to safety even if she wanted to. “A man has got to know his limits”.
As a 5’11” 190 lb man, I know that I can and have carried heavier men than I, but when the differential approaches 40% less strength per lb (female compared to male), and more than 40-80 lbs body weight, you know the answer.
150 lb female x .6 = 90 lb male equivalent, see it now?
There is obviously a need for female operators in certain situations so I applaud any woman who can get through Ranger School.
Every society will always have its warriors.
There will be fewer or more depending on the nature of the society.
And they aren’t always in the armed forces.
>>There is obviously a need for female operators in certain situations so I applaud any woman who can get through Ranger School.
Because some tactical situations call for a sammich.
It’s culture
It’s their make up
Their complete abilities for stress
Physical strength is a smaller part frankly
What a load of crap this is
Like homo love equals man and woman
Why out women in combat military period
For what purpose....fairness?
Bullshit!..,,fairness is relevant or everyone would be a general officer
He’ll put them in UNITED STATES penitentiaries ..,,with men
I wanna be fair
It’s just horse shit.,,,something ambitious chicks lack
The reset to fix this insanity will set a new standard for inhumanity
Brought to us courtesy of the weak
Trust me on this
We cannot continue to overturn human nature in our convenient out of touch tech world forever
It’s like free solo climbing
It’s gonna catch up with us
It has been asserted on another thread that the Army gave both women four months to shirk their normal duties and simply train for this school. The army does not do this for male soldiers.
It was also asserted that both women carried Female Soldiers during the test rather than Male Soldiers.
There were a lot of other assertions about how the test was rigged to allow two females to pass it rather than to maintain the level of difficulty through which the males have to prevail.
I don't know if the above assertions are true, but considering how the Navy leapfrogged Karen Hultgreen over more qualified men, and then let her kill herself because her actual capabilities were not up to the task, I find it entirely plausible that this "Female Rangers" is nothing but another Potemkin village by the Social Engineering fool at the Top of the Chain of Command.
I also think we will not officially hear anything different because all those other soldiers want to keep their jobs and dare not say differently.
stranger ranger blog ping-a-ling
I think the jury has to be out until we hear from the men who went through the course with the women officers.
I think there are a few, a very few, women who are capable of meeting the same criteria as the men.
When the Virginia Military Institute was required by the Supreme Court (per Ginsburg, J) to admit women, VMI made a real point of not changing the standards for the women. The freshman system, the “Ratline” was not significantly changed. They even kept a lot of the traditional language that might be seen as not politically correct. The term “Brother Rat” applies to both sexes. The VMI women still have to pass the men’s PT test. Of course, they have a lot fewer women than the federal service academies, which did significantly change (lower) the physical standards, and reduce the first year hazing traditions when women were admitted.
Saw the pictures of one of the female trainees after they passed doing some running with a guy on her shoulders. It did not look like a particularly small guy either. She was running with other guys carrying guys on their shoulders, so it was not an out of place shot, near as I can make out. These are some hard core physical specimens. As the writer points out, they will never be starters in the physical sense, but they are on team. And if their skill set matches the mission, great. If they bring their leadership qualities to their regular units, cool. When they go back to their units, they will be on the A team. That’ll be cool too. As the author notes, this won’t happen ever again, if the standards are changed!
DK
This is the best after action review of Females in Ranger School that I have seen. It is very well written and provides an in depth discussion of how this experiment was crafted and executed. Rather than going for the headlines of two women who earned tabs, your account points out that 100 women started in the Ranger School/pre Ranger training sequence. Two graduated, and I believe one is still in the Florida phase.
That is a reasonable outcome given the physical demands of the course, particularly the requirements for upper body strength. Your conclusion is spot on, only a very few will ever meet the standard, and likely few will choose to take that path. Unless, of course, the Army adjust the standards so that success rates approach those of the men. In my view, that is the likely next step.
I have heard about the howitzer crew demo, but I had never gotten the details, thanks. As for Wilder, I did bump into her once at VII HQs at Patch Barracks. She had a big role in the Hillary campaign in 2008, I wonder if she has reappeared this time around?
“I find it entirely plausible that this “Female Rangers” is nothing but another Potemkin village by the Social Engineering fool at the Top of the Chain of Command.”
Women actually passing ranger training is about as likely as a poodle competing successfully in equestrian events.
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