There are plenty of reasons to prefer some candidate[s] over others. You don't have to like Carly Fiorina as a candidate or you may have have a different favourite one — that's fine, but there is no reason to repeat the falsehoods about her excecutive record at Lucent and HP just because NYT or Fortune wrote snarky articles, full of omissions, distortions or ridiculous apples-to-oranges comparisons, or because the current favourite populist Donald Trump decided to attack her record: "She's a very nice woman, she got fired, she did a terrible job at Hewlett-Packard, she lost in a landslide — other than that, she's a very nice woman."
That's from a man whose own record at running Trump Entertainment Resorts, Inc. / Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts has been absolutely dismal — common stock symbol DJT, which he completely controlled through the separate majority voting class of stock, so none of his money were in common share class that lost hundreds of millions of dollars for his shareholders, in addition to billions of dollars in lenders' debt, while he personally was getting millions of dollars from lending the use of his "successful celebrity" name, executive salary and preferred dividends : Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts / DJT stock chart between June 1995 and March 2005
Donald did what was good for Donald, not for his shareholders. Does this inspires trust? Here's what The Donald wrote in his book "Trump: Art of the Deal" about his public persona: "The final key to the way I promote," he wrote, "is bravado. I play to people's fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts."
Also read these posts to get familiar with the real record of Fiorina at Lucent and HP, without omissions, distortions or opinions pretenting to look like facts:
Carly Fiorina as a boss: The disappointing truth - FR, post #28, 2015 August 16
Carly Fiorina as a boss: The disappointing truth - FR, post #26, 2015 August 15
Carly Fiorina's Business Record: Not So Sterling - FR, posts #28, #30, 2015 August 18
“Carly did what she was brought in to do: turn the company around and make it successful again.”
Barry’s spent or printed over a buncha trillions and the same can’t be said about him (well, not if you’re honest).
What slot does Fiornia fill that isn’t already taken.
Ted Cruz runs circles around her. She’s not who she is passing herself off as. She and Meg Whitman were McCain people.
Gack! What part of unqualified, Leftist, presidential wanna be, and outclassed by Cruz or Trump, fails to register with you folks?
As for her HP experience, her big claim was that she made a lot of enemies there and wasn’t very popular.
Seems like a life-long ambition being realized.
She’s not popular now either.
Her very positive comments regarding the savage 3rd. century death cult islam, (just weeks after 9/11), really got me charged up about her....
While Fiorina was there, the company lost half it’s value.
She left, and we’re supposed to swallow without chewing the idea that what she did was the reason the company flourished after she left.
The people that replaced her deserved no credit whatsoever. Only Fiorina does.
That’s the best her campaign could come up with?
Ouch.
The comments, in an advertisement placed in the newspaper’s business section Thursday by a pro-Fiorina super-PAC, were framed as a response to an Aug. 18 Times column criticizing Fiorina’s business record as “not so sterling.”
“Critics often claim Carly was fired at HP because she was unsuccessful. As a member of the board, I can tell you this is not true. In truth, it was the Board I was a part of that was ineffective and dysfunctional,” Perkins wrote. He added that his vote to fire her “was a mistake.”
“The merger, while controversial, was unanimously approved by every member of the HP Board and won approval from shareholders. Thanks to Carly’s leadership there was a path forward for this storied but troubled company,” wrote Perkins, a founder of the California venture capital firm Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield & Byers, in his ad.
Fiorina has repeatedly defended her rocky tenure as CEO of HP during her 2016 campaign.
this is close to my recollection at the time. i was actively trading at the time and paying attention to stuff. in case our model picked something that we could see was problematic. the model avoided HP at the time so it was not an issue.
Has she renounced Cap and Trade yet?
You know, the same cap and trade she endorsed in her speech to the RNC in 2008?
Has she explained how she is going to run a better campaign than she did against Barbara, call me senator, Boxer?
This does NOT redeem Fiorina. Among other things, what about the around 25,000 Americans who lost their jobs by her actions?
Dear CNN; Carly MUST Be in the next debate.
Let me put it this way, who is a credible candidate? Who could I see in the White House? Another Bush, no. Walker, no. Dr. Carson, no. Same with almost all of the others. First off, Clinton would knock over every one of them just as has and will Trump. Second, none are presidential caliber. The only ones I see possible are Trump and Cruz. Cruz has issues and he is not widening his support. He might make a good VP and be a good presidential candidate in the future. I’d love to see him replace McConnell in the Senate. Can you imagine the impact he’d have if he were to do so? And in the future, he’d be my pick for Supreme Court. Right now, Trump has rightfully knocked the air out of everyone and is widening the base and can take on anyone the Democrats might put forward. I cannot see anyone else matching that.
You have to drink a truck load of Koolaid to say Fiorina was a success at HP. To go from Bill Hewlett and David Packard to Carly Fiorina is a fall no company should have to go through. If she can find literally 10 HP employees to say good things about her tenure it would rank an an accomplishment.
Another candidate who is willing to throw the knock out punch.
I think the willingness to make enemies and to be scorned by redistributionist liberals and entrenched crony capitalists - is a feature we need right now - I see it in both Trump and Fiorina more than I see it in the career politicians.