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Is Trump the next Reagan? (vanity)
August 21, 2015 | me

Posted on 08/21/2015 6:29:21 PM PDT by Leaning Right

I just finished watching a streaming video of Trump's rally in Alabama. And I gotta tell you, the guy spoke like Reagan would. Trump doesn't quite have Reagan's sense of humor, but otherwise, yep, Trump reminds me of Reagan.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: reagan; trump
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To: papertyger

go watch a few Reagan speeches to understand what i mean


161 posted on 08/22/2015 8:23:54 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Charles Henrickson; Jim Robinson
I wouldn't be too sure of that.

Oh, I don't know why not. To the extent such things can be determined, Trump's numbers are better than anyone else's. Sure, a sea-change is possible, but no matter how you slice it, Trump has the inertia at double his closest competitor right now. That won't be overcome by wishful thinking.

Further, you need do nothing more than compare number of Trump as opposed to Cruz threads, number of responses, and number of favorable vs. unfavorable posts to see which way the FR winds are blowing.

Finally, there aren't very many FReepers longer-time than myself, and my position is exactly the same as JimRob's, so FR pedigree isn't much of an issue.

162 posted on 08/22/2015 8:33:20 AM PDT by papertyger (When the left wins, they're in power; when the right wins, they're in office)
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To: sten
go watch a few Reagan speeches to understand what i mean

I understand exactly what you mean. I also know "inspiration" is not restricted to a single means of generation.

163 posted on 08/22/2015 8:37:56 AM PDT by papertyger (When the left wins, they're in power; when the right wins, they're in office)
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To: papertyger
Trump's numbers are better than anyone else's.

When the field of Cruz, Walker, Rubio, Jindal, Huckabee, et al.--when some of those candidates start to drop out, where will their supporters go? I don't think Trump will get the majority of them. And so the numbers for the remaining non-Trump candidate(s) will likely rise accordingly.

Further, you need do nothing more than compare number of Trump as opposed to Cruz threads, number of responses, and number of favorable vs. unfavorable posts to see which way the FR winds are blowing.

Looking back, I could say the same thing in regard to threads and posts about President Palin or President Gingrich.

164 posted on 08/22/2015 8:53:13 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: Charles Henrickson
--when some of those candidates start to drop out, where will their supporters go? I don't think Trump will get the majority of them.

I can't think of many cases where supporters, deprived of their first choice, coalesce around another underdog in a decisive fashion.

Looking back, I could say the same thing in regard to threads and posts about President Palin or President Gingrich.

Which says nothing to invalidate my point about the FR winds....

165 posted on 08/22/2015 9:05:56 AM PDT by papertyger (When the left wins, they're in power; when the right wins, they're in office)
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To: Charles Henrickson

I’m still not getting the hostility towards Trump. Basically all I’m hearing is he is not a real conservative yet he is the one who made illegal i.migration front and center as an issue. Remember without Trump, Jeb Bush would now be the frontrunner so imagine how DEPPRESSING that prospect would have been. ALso Trump is fine with Jeff Sessions who wore Trump’s hat at the rally.


166 posted on 08/22/2015 9:20:53 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (DUmmie Skinner: Bought & Paid For By Hillary)
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To: papertyger

That makes any discussion just an exercise in stroking your ego.


If I even had an ego.. I would have ignored YOU..
WAIT!... I’m feeling something...


167 posted on 08/22/2015 9:35:29 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: PJ-Comix
all I’m hearing is he is not a real conservative yet he is the one who made illegal immigration front and center as an issue.

He's spoken up strongly on one issue. Good for him. But he's spoken **poorly**, both in the past and in the present, on a number of other issues: e.g., homosexual "marriage," religious liberty, and the Supreme Court's violations of the First and Tenth Amendments of the Constitution. Then there's what I see as his lack of personal character. And he comes across to me as a blowhard egomaniac.

168 posted on 08/22/2015 9:41:14 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

And 40,000 Southerners to hear a New Yorker?


Many of us at the rally mentioned that....We southerners like a few hells and damns in a speech...straight talk...We like Trump...and he liked us. Our old mayor of Mobile said “ There is only one Donald Trump”....he was here many years back on a reconstruction project of an old building...Trump backed out with good reason...We understood and respected him back then...it was the right move....Art of the Deal.


169 posted on 08/22/2015 9:49:37 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Good post


170 posted on 08/22/2015 9:52:38 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: hosepipe
If I even had an ego.. I would have ignored YOU.. WAIT!... I’m feeling something...

What a coincidence! I must not have a sense of humor. Perhaps you could explain your response.

I figure it has to be some sort of joke, which of course I wouldn't "get." Otherwise, it would have made some sense.

171 posted on 08/22/2015 9:54:13 AM PDT by papertyger (When the left wins, they're in power; when the right wins, they're in office)
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To: hsmomx3

John Roberts on FNC said maybe 15,000 were there.


BS


172 posted on 08/22/2015 9:54:23 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: chris37

agree!


173 posted on 08/22/2015 10:02:05 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: papertyger
Which is fine, but recognize that puts you out of the prevailing opinions of both Republican voters, and FR posters

You realize that appealing to the number of peers is a classic leftwing propaganda technique, right? Even trying that argument tells us a lot about your mindset, because typically conservatives are not group-thinkers and are accustomed to being outnumbered and fighting alone, while liberals hold being a member of the herd in high esteem. So accustomed are we conservatives to fighting alone, that we should be extra cautious and reassess our position if we ever find ourselves on the popular side of an issue, rather than take heart in finding that we are running with the crowd.

That so many are not being cautious at all, but are falling for it hook, line and sinker - is not totally surprising because as history has shown us many times that a desperate and humiliated population of any nationality will eagerly follow the first thing that says what they want to hear - it's "any port in a storm." Instead they should heed their mom's advice that if it's too good to be true, its a scam.

That some demand perfection of every other candidate running but go to great lengths to excuse every fault of their idol, is an indication of a cult, not a campaign, and arguing with cultists is usually a waste of time, after a while people just avoid cultists, and this absence of opposition unfortunately tends to reinforce rather than dissuade the true believers.

Those of us who opposed Obama were "out of the prevailing opinions" of the entire world. So what? And we were right about Obama being an enemy of the United States- in spite of his popularity and his Teflon coating.

174 posted on 08/22/2015 10:10:47 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Leaning Right

He’s hated by the GOP establishment like Reagan was. He’s talking about things the GOP establishment does not want talked about but the people do want addressed.


175 posted on 08/22/2015 10:12:49 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: PJ-Comix

I don’t think so. Without Trump posing as the “conservative” one of the other conservative candidates would be frontrunner. Ask yourself, as a Trumpie, if you would support Jeb if Trump wasn’t running? You know you wouldn’t. So why would you think Jeb would be frontrunner, as if all Trump’s supporters would join Jeb’s bandwagon instead of someone else’s? Would all of us out here craving the idea of ripping the RINOs new arseholes suddenly choose a RINO if we couldn’t pick Trump? Of course not.

Trump’s there to kill off the most conservative candidates... think of him as the DNC’s insurance policy if Hillary collapses.


176 posted on 08/22/2015 10:20:58 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: chasio649

My local station said - 30,000 minimum

Proving they’re not shilling for the DemocRATS.


177 posted on 08/22/2015 10:24:16 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: Charles Henrickson

Lack of character? On his deathbed his alchoholic brother Fred told Donald not to drink and ever since he hasn’t touched a drop. He then went on to build a real estate empire via hard work and a brilliant mind.


178 posted on 08/22/2015 10:27:32 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (DUmmie Skinner: Bought & Paid For By Hillary)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Lack of character? On his deathbed his alchoholic brother Fred told Donald not to drink and ever since he hasn’t touched a drop. He then went on to build a real estate empire via hard work and a brilliant mind.


179 posted on 08/22/2015 10:27:41 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (DUmmie Skinner: Bought & Paid For By Hillary)
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To: piasa
You realize that appealing to the number of peers is a classic leftwing propaganda technique, right?

Yes, but it is also a valid technique. That's not to say it can't be abused by citing the opinion of a misinformed majority.

It is another iteration of the "reasonable man" standard, which has long been a recognized standard in our legal system.

My contention is that among Republican voters interested in the race at this early stage, and FreeRepublic members, arguably as much or more politically sophisticated than the previous group, ranking Trump at the bottom is wildly out of step.

180 posted on 08/22/2015 10:31:24 AM PDT by papertyger (When the left wins, they're in power; when the right wins, they're in office)
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