Posted on 08/19/2015 10:38:43 AM PDT by Morgana
It sure is funny what makes news and what gets ignored. Have you heard about the Christian bakers who refused to make wedding cakes for gay couples? Of course you have. But Ill bet you didnt hear about the dance studio that refused service to a little girl with Down syndrome. Last week, Tricia and Jason Winnicki tried to enroll their eight-year-old daughter, Anna, in classes at a dance studio in Lancaster, N.Y., a suburb of Buffalo. The Winnickis told a local television station that the owner of the studio refused them. I really dont think we would be comfortable with that, he reportedly said. We dont have any way to manage her in our studios. There are special schools for people like her, and she should go find those schools. Hes right; there are special schools. But girls like Anna are under no obligation to attend them. The Americans with Disabilities Act couldnt be clearer. If you run a business, you cant discriminate against people based on disability. The whole episode is an outrage, but Im guessing youre hearing about it for the first time. The New York Times hasnt picked it up. CNN hasnt done a segment on it. A story like this stays a local story when the victim is not a member of one of the right oppressed minority groups. For my money, heres the most outrageous detail of Annas story. The television station News4, WIVB refused to disclose the name of the studio that sent her away because they couldnt be reached for comment. In a follow-up, News4 noted:
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Because they are not supposed to be alive.
They are seen as a luxury, an indulgence.
BFL. This might be an interesting thread.
They don’t vote, or there aren’t enough of them to matter.
I think the studio has the right to refuse service to a special needs kid if only because they may not know how to best service her needs. That said, if they were smart they would offer a class specifically geared to kids like that. I bet it would be a money maker.
The news station didn’t disclose the name of the studio because, well, they kinda agreed with them about not serving her.
That is not true that they don’t vote! I do know one woman with Trisomy 21 ran for mayor of a town and WON! I will just bet that woman voted for herself.
I have a feeling problem is that the majority of persons with Trisomy 21 don’t engage in butt sex.
Agreed 100%. Do you hold the rest of the class back for 1 student, does the teacher have to spend all of the class time with the special needs student? What about the parents of the kids in the rest of the class, are they paying full price for a lesser product?
Used to work with a lady with that, she was in HR.
Living in NY for thirty-some years, Downs kids were a rarity. I knew they existed, I knew the statistic was something like 1 in 300, and on occasion would see one, but they were _RARE_.
Then I moved to GA.
Downs kids _everywhere_. Like about 1 in 300 ... oh.
A lesser product because a girl with Down Syndrome is in the class. You are an idiot.
As in, a "physician" (well, somebody with an MD degree) chops them up with a dull knife.
S a sidebar to this article, people with Down Syndrome used to be called “mongoloid.” The word means “possessing characteristics of Mongols,” a reference to some of the facial features of sufferers that were thought to resemble Mongolians.
Would you consider “mongoloid” a derogatory term?
I was thinking the studio is more concerned about liability should the girl be injured.
> If you run a business, you cant discriminate against people based on disability
So if I run a flight school and a blind man wants to register...?
Let's put her in a graduate school level Quantum Physics class. Heck ... let's put YOU in a graduate school level Quantum Physics class. And stipulate that the professor has to make sure that she (or you) manages to "keep up".
What do you suppose the result will be?
My youngest was born with Down Syndrome. He was main streamed in school through elementary school and then partially so in junior high and high school. None of the other kids were getting a “lesser product” because he was there nor did the teachers spend an inordinate amount of time with him. He and his classmates are all in their 30s now. We see several of them regularly. They ALL say that having him in their classes made them better, more caring and understanding people.
He is the greatest blessing our family has ever had. His life has made all the difference, all the good difference, for us and the people around him.
It’s a shame you apparently missed that experience.
A local group called “Hand in Hand” worked with the Quad City Ballet to put together classes for special needs kids and young adults called Creative Movement. It was just the most rewarding class for students-and their parents.
You might think that. But the federal law is absolutely clear.
I worked as a CADD draftsman and a manager at a MUCH higher level (bosses’ bosses bosses boss or such) wanted his bathroom remodeled. I did the design to ADA specs. He said “no I don’t have to do that”... it was, I must confess, a pleasure to hear my boss tell him, in no uncertain terms, that outside of a private residence there was NO bathroom in the country that didn’t have to follow those specs, as it always is when the high and mighty get a comeuppance.
IOW, either of our opinions are inconsequential, it is a very strictly enforced law, maybe the most universally and stringently enforced federal law there is, and pretty much any non private residence outside of the military is going to have to abide by every jot and tittle.
Well spoken, thank you. Some will always see someone with a disability as a lesser individual and in someway taking from the more “normal”. I have seen this delusional argument many time before.
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