Posted on 08/19/2015 1:41:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Sweet Mother of Hades this is getting beyond absurd. Another entire media cycle consisting of completely manufactured nonsense projecting their determination of what is against the reality of what isnt .
Having watched an entire media cycle of punditry pontificate about Donald Trump proposing to deport by force 11 to 42 million illegal aliens we find ourselves shaking our heads at how little the MSM think of the viewing audience.
NO-WHERE in Donald Trumps proposal does he say, or advocate for, the mass rounding up and subsequent deportation of millions of illegal aliens. He never said it, he never proposed it, and it doesnt exist in his presented Border Solution and Illegal Alien proposal.
It just doesnt exist, yet the media claim it to be so .
The media, all of them, including Fox News, Bill OReilly, The FIVE, Dana Perino et al, along with Anderson Cooper Inc, run the segment of Donald Trump responding to the Chuck Todd question about Obamas illegal DACA dreamers amnesty program, and the 2 million dreamers. Wherein Trump was responding to the hypothetical presentation of NBC Chuck Todd, about what would the dreamer classification be if their amnesty would be rescinded.
They would be what they are, ILLEGAL ALIENS.
And as such they would be subject to the same standard of all illegal aliens. Yes, that means the potential for deportation.
However, what Trump did not say, yet what he is being claimed to have said (by projection) is that he would immediately deport all 11 to 42 million illegals. Although, it would be OK with me if he did, he never said that.
Dont believe me? WATCH FOR YOURSELF:
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Trump replied to the question, as Todd interjected the deportation wording, by saying the families should be kept together, and if that means deported through the existing system as a family, then so be it.
But the sheer manipulated construction of how the media is now framing Trumps position, is beyond obtuse to a level of intentional LYING.
The MSM take that soundbite with Chuck Todd and then completely make up a claim that Donald Trump is advocating for the forced rounding up and deportation of ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS. A totally manufactured claim.
Trump has called for the deportation of CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS, immediately. Which is just plain common sense. Thats actually President Obamas claimed position too.
It does not go unnoticed this MEME is being promoted at the same time that Donald Trump spent all day sitting amid a potential pool of jurors unable to articulate his own accurate position. Yeah, funny that huh?
It doesnt go unnoticed that Trumps primary high level spokespeople were absent from the talking punditry as this took place.
It doesnt go unnoticed that Ann Coulter is not booked to counter the preferred distribution narrative.
It doesnt go unnoticed by those who understand how these penthouse New York media decisions are constructed.
All the media need to begin a narrative out of loin-cloth that doesnt factually exist in the first place is a complete media cycle to advance a manufactured construct.
See how they roll?
Insufferable.
Doncha just love the bleeding hearts crying about breaking up families, when in this country, hundreds, if not thousands of families are torn apart daily by Children’s Services. Bunch of hypocrites. (see my new tagline).
Where was the outrage when children were being sent without families on the trek from Central America to the US?
They don’t cry when an illegal rapes and bludgeons to death a granny or a daughter. Those are families getting busted up too.
It is quite clear that illegals coming over the wall should be detained and deported. Of course, the southern border is only 60% of the problem with 40% of the illegals in America being visa jumpers. Here Trump is slightly less explicit. He wants punishment but he does not explicitly state that visa jumpers should be chased down and deported. Although, it is reasonable to infer that punishment must necessarily include deportation. Will he chase them down, punish them and deport them?
It is quite clear that aliens in our midst who commit crimes should be deported. That is an easy political step to take and the doing away with sanctuary cities is a necessary step toward that end. The provisions against gangs and criminals provides a certain amount of cover against the political opposition in favor of sanctuary cities which is not inconsiderable.
With upwards of 30 million or perhaps 40 million illegal aliens in America it is politically impossible to sell a program which envisions "kicking down doors" and forcibly deporting tens of millions of people. The left will instantly raise images of boxcars on their way to Auschwitz. So how do you get rid of all of these otherwise law-abiding illegals? Romney said it but was clobbered for saying it: let them self deport. Self deportation is the only viable answer but it must be politically palatable.
There are only two reasons for them to stay in America, welfare benefits and/or employment. Obviously, to get them to self deport one must remove both of those props. To Trump's credit he wants to take away benefits from illegals but of course that runs into trouble with several Supreme Court decisions as well as Congress.
But Trump is not explicit with respect to ending employment. Is he guarding himself from attacks from the left? He mentions e-verify but ambiguously:
But what does this mean? E-verify as a system is spotty and its application in some states it has been rendered inoperative if not illegal, and not well enforced. Does "nationwide" mean that it will be applied to every state? To all private employers? Clearly, unless the incentive of employment is removed ICE will be hopelessly reduced to shoveling flies, overwhelmed by numbers, backlogged in the courts, ultimately swamped by birthright citizenship coupled with chain migration.
My point is is just the opposite of this article. I question whether conservatives should have faith that Trump will actually deport illegal aliens who are not criminals and who are not, coming over the wall? Will he deport visa jumpers? Will he chase them down? Will he make e-verify ubiquitous and impose sanctions on employers? Why has he not been explicit?
“....hundreds, if not thousands of families are torn apart daily by Childrens Services.”.......
Many of these “families” are torn apart to protect the children or a spouse from physical abuse, etc. which is NOT THE SAME as someone who is here ILLEGALY, although some of them may fall into that category.
That is true, however, when parents lose their children through illegal acts, to me, that is the same as an illegal coming here to have a baby. Key word - illegal. Either we are a nation of laws, or we don’t have a nation. Is physical abuse or neglect a crime in the eyes of the court? Of course, it is, as is coming here illegally to have an anchor baby is a crime.
Maybe the MSM employees support the Hispanic gangbangers that's who they defend against the evil Americans.
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Then it goes on to support American citizen and legal resident vs. illegal Aliens and imported foreign workers.
Trump had me at..
....I will build a wall so big....huge.....and I will build it in record time....
I don’t remember anyone serious about this except Duncan Hunter, the father......years and years ago......and then they just ignored him....reappropriated the money or whatever
Bump
I remember Duncan Hunter well. Used to read his reports on the sad state of supporting our our Military. Glad to see his son continuing in his place. Just wish son was as outspoken as father was.
If I’m not mistaken, Hunter,Sr. did achieve some form of a wall.........of a certain distance.
I think you are correct.
Some on both the left and right think Trump will be deporting the non criminals en masse, which is not the case.
To me it looks like a self "deportation" plan.
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