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Children of those illegally in the United States are NOT subject to its jurisdiction.
1 posted on 08/18/2015 3:22:38 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

agree.


2 posted on 08/18/2015 3:23:57 PM PDT by Perdogg (I'm on a no Carb diet- NO Christie Ayotte Romney or Bush - stay outta da Bushesh)
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To: cotton1706

They can’t be arrested and tried?


3 posted on 08/18/2015 3:24:39 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: cotton1706; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

Mark Levin is explaining this now

http://player.listenlive.co/25111


4 posted on 08/18/2015 3:24:43 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: cotton1706

You provide a list of exceptions to jurisdiction.

But you believe people who enter the country illegally without any legal authorization, are protected by said jurisdiction.

Why is that?


22 posted on 08/18/2015 3:46:31 PM PDT by DB
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To: cotton1706

I guess everybody who graces our borders IS subject to the jurisdiction of..........


30 posted on 08/18/2015 3:54:21 PM PDT by umgud
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To: cotton1706

I love it that the conversation has evolved to this. Good jump Mr. Trump.


43 posted on 08/18/2015 4:07:37 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: cotton1706

I love it that the conversation has evolved to this. Good job Mr. Trump.


44 posted on 08/18/2015 4:07:54 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: cotton1706

Correct.

Entering the country illegally is an AFFIRMATION by the immigrant that they are NOT under US Jurisdiction.

Jurisdiction is a two-way street.


49 posted on 08/18/2015 4:22:11 PM PDT by bakeneko
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To: cotton1706
Great argument from Breibart as to why denying citizenship to the children of illegal aliens is fully consistent with the Constitution’s Fourteenth Amendment

Actual constitutional analysis going on here. That is rare these days.

The law itself:

Under current immigration law—found at 8 U.S.C. § 1401(a)—a baby born on American soil to a (1) foreign ambassador, (2) head of state, or (3) foreign military prisoner is not an American citizen.

The Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment provides: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

The Civil Rights Act [1866] included a definition for national citizenship, to guarantee that former slaves would forever be free of the infamous Dred Scott decision which declared black people were not American citizens. That provision read, “All persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.”

That was the original meaning of the jurisdiction language in the Fourteenth Amendment. A person who is “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States is a person who is “not subject to any foreign power”—that is, a person who was entirely native to the United States, not the citizen or subject of any foreign government.

Under Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 of the Constitution, Congress has absolute power to make laws for immigration and for granting citizenship to foreigners. Congress’s current INA is far more generous than the Constitution requires.

In case law:

In 1884, the Supreme Court in Elk v. Wilkins noted that the language of the Civil Rights Act was condensed and rephrased in the Fourteenth Amendment and that courts can therefore look to the Civil Rights Act to understand better the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court reasoned that if a person is a foreign citizen, then their children are likewise not constitutionally under the jurisdiction of the United States, and therefore not entitled to citizenship. In fact, the Court specifically then added that this rule is why the children of foreign ambassadors are not American citizens.

That is why Congress can specify that the children of foreign diplomats and foreign soldiers are not Americans by birth. They’re not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. Congress’s INA does not grant them citizenship; federal law never has.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/18/constitution-doesnt-mandate-birthright-citizenship/

53 posted on 08/18/2015 4:45:52 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: cotton1706

Children of those illegally in the United States are NOT subject to its jurisdiction.
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I agree.

Pregnant Chinese mothers who arrive in the US to deliver their babies are CHINESE SUBJECTS and subject to Chinese jurisdiction not American subjects. The same thing applies to the illegals...they are SUBJECTS and citizens of whatever cesspool country they come from and are NOT American subjects.


54 posted on 08/18/2015 4:45:59 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: cotton1706
"Children of those illegally in the United States are NOT subject to its jurisdiction."

What, they have immunity?

85 posted on 08/18/2015 9:54:56 PM PDT by mlo
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To: cotton1706
Well, just put in a "rule" that children born to illegal alien parents are in fact US Citizens...and wards of the state. Their parents immediately lose custody and get deported and the children are put up for adoption.

That will stop the "birth tourism" industry dead in its tracks.

102 posted on 08/19/2015 9:20:50 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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