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On the economy, Donald Trump sounds like Nancy Pelosi
marketwatch ^ | Aug 14, 2015 | Paul Brandus

Posted on 08/17/2015 3:49:35 AM PDT by expat_panama

...Trump said “We don’t win anymore…we don’t do anything right.” And yet, if we’re losing and can’t beat anybody, as he claims, then why is the rest of the world so confident about the U.S. and eager to come here and do business? Don’t take it from me: just read the AT Kearney survey of global business executives, which says—for the third year in a row—that the United States has the world’s best macroeconomic outlook— better than anywhere else, including China and Mexico, two countries he claims are eating our lunch.

Another study shows those executives putting their money where their mouth is. International firms poured $236 billon into the United States in 2013...

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This kind of simplistic bumper-sticker talk goes over well with folks who apparently don’t want to think for themselves...

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That Trump talks in broad terms with little to no policy detail (“I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created”) is a rap against him, but then again, political candidates are generally advised to avoid specifics that may be picked apart and cost votes later on. More seasoned politicians like Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton have already fallen into this trap; is Trump politically savvier than them? No, his campaign—new, understaffed and disorganized—is just out of the gate, and he’ll make similar mistakes soon enough.

But another reason Trump hasn’t talked all that much about his ideas is because they’re not, well, conservative enough. “I’m a free trader,” he claims, yet...

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He’s a protectionist in free-trader clothes, a stance that squarely aligns him with labor unions, environmentalists and big-city liberals like Nancy Pelosi. That’s hardly the way to win the backing of the Republican party, now, is it?...

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; investing; trump
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To: expat_panama

The fact that other countries want a bite of our carcass is not a sign that we are healthy.


61 posted on 08/17/2015 8:38:00 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: sergeantdave
"This country is under invasion by an enemy"

Yet we give jobs to the enemy invaders. If there weren't jobs for them, they wouldn't be here. In Nevada, California, and Texas, 10-11 percent of the workforce are illegal. AZ, FL, NJ and NY are not far behind that.

The most powerful group in the GOP are the economic elitists aka the Captains of Capitalism(who you call Marxists) and they want amnesty and a robust immigration policy.

I don't think King Donald the Great is sincere, he's just trying to agitate the crazies. Beyond that, do you honestly think he has 60 cloture votes in the senate?

62 posted on 08/17/2015 8:48:53 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

63 posted on 08/17/2015 9:04:31 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>> Imagine PT Barnum, Huey Long and George Wallace all rolled into one <<

I agree with you 110% — if not more!


64 posted on 08/17/2015 9:15:06 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

That’s loaded question...


65 posted on 08/17/2015 6:02:14 PM PDT by DB
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To: Ben Ficklin

We are at war. When at war, the rules of birth citizenship, due process, 60 cloture votes, etc., don’t apply.


66 posted on 08/17/2015 6:06:06 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Ben Ficklin

You’re right. I’m all for Jeb F’in Bush now. He’s a god amongst mere mortals and we’d do well to recognize it.


67 posted on 08/17/2015 6:18:29 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater; sergeantdave
If you look at the history of the issue since WW2, the prez has had very little influence. That is not going to change with King Donald the Great if he were to become prez.

Most recently, the senate passed legislation with 68 votes, but the legislation didn't survive the Hastert Rule in the House. There are more than enough votes on the floor of the House if Boehner would put it on the floor for a vote.

So you see, the people today who are supporting Trump, are the same people who supported the House GOP hardliners(Tea Party? Minutemen?) who used the Hastert Rule to block the Senate legislation.

This group in the House has enough votes to block only if the Hastert Rule is used. We don't know exactly how many there are but lets say 60% of the House GOP caucus.

Based on that and the vote in the senate, Trumps immigration plan would get 32 votes in the Senate and 60% of the House GOP caucus.

Its not likely that the Trump plan could even get out of the Senate Judiciary committee.

68 posted on 08/18/2015 1:59:59 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Before I answer - I don’t like personal comments, I try as hard as I can to refrain from them here, admitting the occasional lapse.

Regardless, there’s no need for due process in any way if they are denied entry. Deportations probably do require a lot of process, but it is more than do-able. No pun.

Birth right Citizenship is a far from clear issue but I’d agree that retrospective laws are not permitted in our system, save Democrat sponsored tax bills. To root out the accidental kid citizens would require their parents to take them, they are not deportable.

The FDIC, NACHA, the bank card payments systems, SWIFT and the money transmitters seize, impound or otherwise level penalties on digital money without warrants or judgements ALL THE TIME, everyday, at the behest of the DOJ and the CFPB, not to leave anyone else out. The executive branch could levy any due diligence or fee or scrutiny it wanted on any digital payment at any time.

A month without dollars in a simple delay gets the wall built, that’s for sure. A month where every Mexican truck crossing the border goes to the weigh station with brakes and tires taken off and checked, in other words acting just like the Mexicans, would get the wall built. Drug tests for the truck drives, blah blah blah. It takes balls, that’s all.


69 posted on 08/18/2015 1:27:52 PM PDT by major-pelham
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To: expat_panama

70 posted on 09/02/2015 7:32:44 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

tx! Trump defenders may say that anything Trump said yesterday doesn’t matter because he changes his mind, but imho that doesn’t sound like a very impressive defense.


71 posted on 09/03/2015 4:11:31 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
He’s a protectionist in free-trader clothes, a stance that squarely aligns him with labor unions, environmentalists and big-city liberals like Nancy Pelosi.

That is absurd. Environmentalists want all industry off shored. To them an ideal America is bike trails and little shops selling jars of honey and skin cremes. They hate nasty factories. Unions are dead; 90% of the manufacturing work force is not unionized. 90%!. Nazi Pelosi is a protectionist? News to me.

72 posted on 09/03/2015 4:18:43 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Trump plans on enforcing existing laws, edicts are not required.


73 posted on 09/03/2015 4:27:52 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Ben Ficklin
"All I’m telling you is Trump can’t deliver what he is telling you. Any of it."

Bull S*** the laws are already on the books. All Trump has to do is enforce EXISTING LAW.

74 posted on 09/03/2015 4:30:51 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agreed! and the article smells to high heaven of the Republican Establishment!


75 posted on 09/03/2015 4:34:50 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: trebb
And said nice things about a fellow Republican from SC and was.

-PJ

76 posted on 09/03/2015 4:39:40 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: jpsb
"All Trump has to do is enforce EXISTING LAW"

On the surface, that is true. There are illegals here and there are agencies to deal with that, but Congress does not appropriate enough money.

And this is basis of the conflict.

Without enough money we can deport some of them, then it becomes an issue of which illegals get deported and which illegals don't get deported.

The method we used was the " low hanging fruit" method. We would deport those that were easiest to catch, which were those living openly who were contributing to society and the GDP. The ones that we didn't deport were those who were hard to catch: criminals and such.

That's what made everybody mad at Obama. He changed the rules to defer process on those that were easiest to catch, insisting that we deport the worst illegals.

OTOH, many say Trump would have enough money to deport all the illegals if he suspended due process, because the due process we grant to illegals is very costly. But if he tries to suspend due process the courts will shut him down.

77 posted on 09/03/2015 9:10:39 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
IMHO (which is often proven correct) If Trump is elected he will have a mandate to enforce existing immigration laws since he is making enforcement of existing immigration laws the center piece of his campaign. Congress will appropriate the necessary funds plus additional funds to hire more immigration judges and ICE agents. And if Mexico wants to continue doing business with the USA Mexico will help pay for the wall.

The notion of an open borders North America is dead. Mexico killed it by encouraging its' so call undesirables to illegally migrate to the USA. Mexicos' ruling class is racist they do not want the native Incas in Mexico.

78 posted on 09/03/2015 9:22:34 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: central_va
Environmentalists want all industry off shored.

Really?  I thought they wanted all industry abolished, especially the offshored ones.

79 posted on 09/03/2015 10:30:35 AM PDT by expat_panama
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