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Donald Trump’s immigration plan is out — and here’s what’s in it
marketwatch.com ^ | Steve Goldstein

Posted on 08/16/2015 9:24:22 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Edited on 08/16/2015 3:07:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Donald Trump has made headline after headline with his remarks on immigrants and immigration, but now his presidential campaign has put together its

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; aliens; election2016; newyork; trump
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To: RoosterRedux

Sounds reasonable


101 posted on 08/16/2015 10:10:09 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

The baby is. The parents are not.

Deport the parents.
Allow them zero visitation ever. Don’t even keep information for the child to learn who their criminal parents were.
If they wish (as their child’s guardian) to take the child with them when they are deported make that act an automatic forfeiture of the child’s citizenship.

This is the same solution conservatives have been advocating at least since I became involved in immigration reform activism during the Carter presidency.

And fix immigration processing.

In the seventies it often took up to eight years to get citizenship processed for a spouse an American married overseas. Today it still does despite computerization. This is why I first got involved in immigration as a political issue.


102 posted on 08/16/2015 10:11:07 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Little Ray

Put an absolute end to “economic refugees”


103 posted on 08/16/2015 10:11:10 AM PDT by norton
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To: RoosterRedux
Which of the candidates have even mentioned ENFORCING OUR EXISTING LAWS....?

(Deporting All Of America's Illegal Immigrants Would Cost A Whopping $285 Billion)

There has to be a better way without jeopardizing our sovereignty as a nation - detention camps where they will be "documented" as illegal aliens...AKA felons, then when enough are corralled to fill a Boeing C-17...send it to Mexico City International Airport....push them out the ramp and leave! Could work.......

104 posted on 08/16/2015 10:12:27 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
14th Amendment, Section 5 [of 5]:

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

There is an argument that Section 1, from which you quoted, had its original intent misinterpreted when SCOTUS ruled on citizenship in the late 1800s and that the current interpretation of birthright citizenship was NOT intended. And as such, that Congress can point to section 5 and end it by simple legislation; stating it, not SCOTUS, has the applicable power here. At worst you get a confrontation between what the Framers thought of the most vs. the least powerful branches of the Federal Government. The only problem is a century worth of brain washing the populace on the incorrect SCOTUS precedent. Defeating that brain washing will take all the heavy lifting Trump can provide.

105 posted on 08/16/2015 10:13:16 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Nope, just a re-examining by the USSC. Birthright citizenship is mostly policy driven and not caselaw driven. Just need a solid challenge and it can be changed.


106 posted on 08/16/2015 10:13:25 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: kabar

What candidate has proposed an immigration position paper like Trump’s? It is unprecedented.

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Trump would end “birthright citizenship.”

Mexicans giving birth as the enter. This happens on the freeways, and right at the border as they enter. This has been going on for decades while people like Bush and Obama winked and nodded.

Millions do this to get a foot in the freebie door.

This is happening daily.


107 posted on 08/16/2015 10:13:27 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Trump also said......"THEY HAVE TO GO."

He said, "we don't intend to separate families........they'll all be together ......in Mexico."

To the question WRT those who dont have a place to go...Trump said, "it's not our problem."

108 posted on 08/16/2015 10:14:40 AM PDT by Liz
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To: caww
He’s also stated that HIB’S need to be high quality people...rather then the flow of IT low earners as has been done.

Trump has done more than that. He is trying to discourage the number of H-1Bs. He did it very cleverly.

Increase prevailing wage for H-1Bs. We graduate two times more Americans with STEM degrees each year than find STEM jobs, yet as much as two-thirds of entry-level hiring for IT jobs is accomplished through the H-1B program. More than half of H-1B visas are issued for the program's lowest allowable wage level, and more than eighty percent for its bottom two. Raising the prevailing wage paid to H-1Bs will force companies to give these coveted entry-level jobs to the existing domestic pool of unemployed native and immigrant, instead of flying in cheaper workers from overseas. This will improve the number of black, Hispanic and female workers in Silicon Valley who have been passed over in favor of the H-1B program. Mark Zuckerberg’s personal Senator, Marco Rubio, has a bill to triple H-1Bs that would decimate women and minorities.

Requirement to hire American workers first. Too many visas, like the H-1B, have no such requirement. In the year 2015, with 92 million Americans outside the workforce and incomes collapsing, we need to companies to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed. Petitions for workers should be mailed to the unemployment office, not USCIS.

Cruz spoke of this as well...he wants to increase the HIB”S for high end workers as well.

No, Cruz wants to increase the number of H-1B visas significantly as well as legalize the lawbreakers already here.

Cruz Tries to Claim the Middle Ground on Immigration

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

Mr. Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship. He said he was against naturalization because it rewarded lawbreakers and was unfair to legal immigrants. It also perpetuates illegal crossings, he added.

Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Mr. Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.

109 posted on 08/16/2015 10:14:48 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
What candidate has proposed an immigration position paper like Trump’s? It is unprecedented.

Did ya know at just one Dallas Texas hospital, about 1000 anchor babies are born EVERY SINGLE MONTH?

110 posted on 08/16/2015 10:15:15 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RoosterRedux

Ah, thanks much.

I had look at the article, but I only saw about 5 points or so on there, but I figured that there had to be more.

That’s good, but I still prefer criminal accessory charges for real teeth.

But whatever, Trump’s plan looks fantastic. certainly far better than Mr. Act of Love, or that other tool from Ohio that prefers they be legalized.


111 posted on 08/16/2015 10:15:39 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“...a policy based on a misinterpretation of the 14th...”
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The 14th amendment has been used and abused way too much for way too long by out-of-control courts resulting in enormous damage to our country. Congressional clarification of the true, limited intent of the 14th is urgently required to prevent further damage.


112 posted on 08/16/2015 10:15:54 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: RoosterRedux

This is great news!

PS i am new. my post lag time review is frustrating! Apologize in advance for duplicate I posted over an hour ago.


113 posted on 08/16/2015 10:17:00 AM PDT by glenduh
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To: glenduh
Welcome aboard.

You're gonna love it here.

114 posted on 08/16/2015 10:17:51 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Trump's ISIS policy: Kick their ass. Take their gas.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The only time I’ve seen him say that was for them to touch base back home so that the “good ones” could then be “expedited” for “legalization”.


115 posted on 08/16/2015 10:19:02 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

The first, second and other amendments have been twisted and ‘re-interpreted, with judges using what they think the framers had in mind at the time. I believe what they had in mind here was the children of slaves, not millions of illegal aliens rushing across our border to have babies and collect welfare.


116 posted on 08/16/2015 10:19:17 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Electric Graffiti
Sorry to disagree with Ann. I can tell you from both professional and personal experience that birthright citizenship has been with us prior to 1982. Here is a good overview on the subject and its historical origins.
117 posted on 08/16/2015 10:20:13 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Sequoyah101

Trump knows ALL of the above will automatically happen, if we build the fence and deport those here, illegally.

>>BRILLIANT<<


118 posted on 08/16/2015 10:20:17 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: dragnet2

Yes, that and many of his other proposed policy changes are good.

But he’s also apparently left a hole for nearly 30 million otherwise-not-convicted illegals to stay here—and through chain migration multiply to 90 million.

Those are primarily low-skill, Leftist-leaning, government-dependent immigrants.


119 posted on 08/16/2015 10:20:28 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

If I am not mistaken, he said it this morning on Meet the Press.


120 posted on 08/16/2015 10:20:49 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Trump's ISIS policy: Kick their ass. Take their gas.)
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