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Trump: Iraq war elevated Iran
NJ. com ^ | Aug 13 2015 | Jonathan Salant

Posted on 08/13/2015 10:39:27 AM PDT by WilliamIII

WASHINGTON — Businessman Donald Trump said Iran is as powerful as it is today because President George W. Bush's war on Iraq took out its main adversary.

Trump, speaking on the Fox News Channel "Hannity," said he opposed Bush's decision to go to war against Iraq based on claims that the country had weapons of mass destruction. The weapons were never found, and Bush's brother and fellow GOP presidential candidate, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, said in May that "knowing what we know now I would not have engaged—I would not have gone into Iraq."

Trump said that he warned before the 2003 invasion that the move would destabilize the Middle East.

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To: WilliamIII
Iraq is much better off now than it was under Saddam.

Libya and probably Syria soon also. /sarc

41 posted on 08/13/2015 12:38:03 PM PDT by McGruff (Trump/Cruz 2016 - My Dream Team)
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To: LS

He is as stupid as Trump. Hussein had Any Nidal sitting in Baghdad running terrorist attacks against Americans while Hussein was paying bounty for American scalps. The ignorance here at times rivals Huffpost.


42 posted on 08/13/2015 12:38:59 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

I seriously thought that by late 06 we had Iran in the worst of all positions, boxed in on two sides. ZEro let it all go to hell.


43 posted on 08/13/2015 12:40:19 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: TexasCajun

That’s why I’m a fan because he maybe a horses behind but he’s definitely not a small cat.


44 posted on 08/13/2015 12:41:05 PM PDT by McGruff (Trump/Cruz 2016 - My Dream Team)
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To: usconservative; WilliamIII

>>”Case in point: The Iranian Student Uprising early in Obama’s first term. What did Obama do? Turned his eyes away and let Iran do what it wanted killing hundreds/thousands.”<<

The so-called ‘uprising’ in 2009 in Iran (which I incidentally supported at the beginning) was not essentially home-grown. Although, it did also involve various (non-Islamic) Iranian political groups.

ESSENTIALLY, the “Green Revolution” (2009) was a (violent) dispute between supporters of Ahmadi-Nejad and the reformist faction of the same Islamic Republic Regime - the former supported by ‘foreign elements’, and partly financed by self-serving, wealthy, and very corrupt individuals such as mullah Rafsanjani.

One can argue that Obama could’ve supported the ‘moderate/reformists Islamists” of the same Mullahs’ regime; OR put his weight behind those non-Islamic, secular groups.

All in all, it would not have worked because the Mullahs’ Regime is FIRMLY in charge in Iran, will kill as many UNARMED people (as they are and were), and is very much UNlike the Shah’s era.

>>”What was Obama’s response to the “arab spring?” He completely mis-characterized it and repeatedly failed to see it for what it truly was.”<<

Way I understood it, it was about Democracy and equal rights between shi’ites and sunnis in Arab countries. Another failure and ill-conceived plan. This ‘uprising’ was also instigated by outsiders.

Both the “Arab Spring” and the 2009 Green Revolution in Iran remind me of what Jimmy Carter did in Iran back in 1978-79.

Major difference, for Iran at least, being that times have changed.

Iranian Mullahs’ regime will quash any internal uprising in the most brutal way and with impunity, whereas the Shah chose to leave Iran in 1979 to avoid further bloodshed. And to stop Islamists & Communists (supported by Jimmy Carter et al, under the banner of “Democracy”) from terrorism inside Iran.

In hindsight the Shah should’ve stayed and killed the mentioned bast*rds; then again, the Shah would have been accused of being an Assad or a Saddam.....


45 posted on 08/13/2015 12:54:50 PM PDT by odds
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Correction: “the former supported by ‘foreign elements’” = I meant the latter i.e. the Reformist faction.


46 posted on 08/13/2015 1:13:10 PM PDT by odds
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To: WilliamIII

Trump is dangerously ignorant of ME politics. Democrats beat up Bush day and night over Iraq and Afghanistan. If they had a patriotic bone in their bodies we’d have wrapped things up and held 12 bases in Iraq.


47 posted on 08/13/2015 5:58:21 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: WilliamIII

No, taking an American embassy personnel hostage put them in the ME driver’s seat. Not the Iraq war. Saddam was the kingpin and financial supporter of terrorists everywhere - the hub.. If any of them needed funding - Saddam was their man. Why he even paid the Palestinian mothers that $50,000 for each child she gave up for suicide bombing.


48 posted on 08/13/2015 7:23:01 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: WilliamIII

Trump is an ass. He is still spouting that we went into Iraq on bad intelligence. Even the N.Y. slimes said themed were moved.


49 posted on 08/14/2015 11:02:47 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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