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Firestorm erupts over Trump's 'Bible connection'
WND ^ | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 08/11/2015 10:43:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

A Christian minister in Florida has ignited a firestorm over his suggestion that God is using Donald Trump as a divine instrument in the 2016 presidential election cycle.

In a column published in Charisma magazine, Jeremiah Johnson of Behold the Man Ministries in Lakeland, Florida, said he was praying several weeks ago “when God began to speak to me concerning the destiny of Donald Trump in America:”

The Holy Spirit spoke to me and said, “Trump shall become My trumpet to the American people, for he possesses qualities that are even hard to find in My people these days. Trump does not fear man nor will he allow deception and lies to go unnoticed. I am going to use him to expose darkness and perversion in America like never before, but you must understand that he is like a bull in a china closet.

Many will want to throw him away because he will disturb their sense of peace and tranquility, but you must listen through the bantering to discover the truth that I will speak through him. I will use the wealth that I have given him to expose and launch investigations searching for the truth. Just as I raised up Cyrus to fulfill My purposes and plans, so have I raised up Trump to fulfill my purposes and plans prior to the 2016 election.

You must listen to the trumpet very closely for he will sound the alarm and many will be blessed because of his compassion and mercy. Though many see the outward pride and arrogance, I have given him the tender heart of a father that wants to lend a helping hand to the poor and the needy, to the foreigner and the stranger.”


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: biblecode; carlyfiorina; cruz; fiorina; littlecracker; littlewine; tedcruz; trump; trumpbiblecode; trumpisinthebible; trumpmunion
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To: JohnBrowdie
people have given up their views on abortion so they could remain devoted to trump. people have given up their views on gay marriage so they could remain devoted to trump. people have given up their views on gun control so they could remain devoted to trump. denying God so they could remain devoted to donald trump is simply the next link in the chain

Thanks for your post (and previous links to his quotes on prayer/forgiveness). Do you have a link perchance on Trump flip-flopping on the gay marriage issue. I can't seem to get google ("Startpage" which searches google without giving info to them) to give me a good bite on the subject.

121 posted on 08/11/2015 12:24:11 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Let us do evil that good may come"? ....condemnation is just - Romans 3:8)
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To: RoosterRedux; Kartographer; GeronL; demshateGod; JohnBrowdie; Resettozero; Buckeye McFrog; ...
The infiltrating contingency of liberal left has yet another false god.

Donald Trump kicks over the money changer tables in the temple in Jerusalem.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3322350/posts

CNN ANDERSON COOPER GRILLS DONALD TRUMP ON HIS FAITH - JULY 22, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFH1ghoMmg0

After 46 seconds, Donald Trump said the following in answer to the question about repentance.

https://youtu.be/IFH1ghoMmg0?t=46s

"Well, I, I like to work where I don't really have to ask for...I like to do the right thing where I don't have to actually ask for forgiveness, does that make sense to you, you know, where you don't make such bad things, that you don't have to ask for forgiveness, I mean, I try and lead a life where I don't have to ask G[-]d for forgiveness..."

After 1 minute, 20 seconds,...

https://youtu.be/IFH1ghoMmg0?t=1m20s

"Well, I try not to make mistakes, where I have to ask for forgiveness, for one thing. So when I'm asked a question like that, it's like, you know, I don't like to make a lot of mistakes

After 1 minute, 52 seconds,...

https://youtu.be/IFH1ghoMmg0?t=1m52s

"Why do I have to ask for forgiveness, if you're not making mistakes, I work hard, I'm an honorable person, I have thousands of people that work for me, I've employed tens of thousands of people over the years..."


122 posted on 08/11/2015 12:25:39 PM PDT by familyop ("Survey Monkey:...pistol whipped unconscious...laying face down on the group.")
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To: familyop

He’s extremely PROUD.....of himself!


123 posted on 08/11/2015 12:27:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: itsahoot
But did he say he forgives himself which was the allegation by GeronL. Asked and answered up thread.
124 posted on 08/11/2015 12:28:07 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: JediJones
Well, a cult implies mindless allegiance. I like the fact that Trump fights. But I'm not a fan. Interestingly, I note the same behavior coming from the GOPe camp, given the rocks they've thrown at Trump, including half-naked judgments on his saying (without proof) that he asks himself for forgiveness...

There's a whole lot of stone-throwing going on from both sides of the debate, and from what I have read from even the more "righteous" among us, nobody seems to be all that wonderful- not to mention objective.

125 posted on 08/11/2015 12:29:30 PM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: 60Gunner
There's a whole lot of stone-throwing going on from both sides of the debate, and from what I have read from even the more "righteous" among us, nobody seems to be all that wonderful- not to mention objective.

Nothing new under the Sun, it happens every election.

126 posted on 08/11/2015 12:30:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: caww

It’s interesting you bring up the otherwise boring Presidential race. That is absolutely the first thing I thought of when I heard Trump might run. I didn’t think he would have a chance or even if I would be for him. But after how I saw Trump go unflinchingly after Obama like no one else did about the BC thing, I thought, “Well at least he will liven up the debates. They might even be worth watching, if not for the substance, at least for the entertaining value.”


127 posted on 08/11/2015 12:30:34 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: gdani

I’ve always thought it interesting that the thief on the cross was forgiven by Christ and taken to Paradise, when:

1. He didn’t confess his sins or ask forgiveness.
2. He didn’t “walk the sawdust trail”.
3. He didn’t demur and refuse to respond through 5 stanzas of Just As I Am.
4. He didn’t raise his hand and/or repeat the “sinner’s prayer”.

According to the Scripture, BOTH thieves initially railed on Jesus and mocked Him, because the plural is used..

5. But, the one thief apparently came to his senses and cried out to Christ, “Lord, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”
And Christ replied, “Today you will be with me in Parsdise.” OTOH, The Donald takes Communion whenever possible. The Lord, through the Apostle Paul said in 1st Corinthians 11, that “...as often as you eat this bread, and drink this cup, you do show forth the Lord’s death until He comes back.” That indicates to me a faith a mite bigger than a mustard seed; since some people want to split hairs.

One thing we need to remember. Christ said that a teeny tiny little bit of faith, no bigger than a mustard seed, could move a mountain. I’m certain He’s more interested in saving souls than He is in moving mountains, per se. He said, “The Son of man is come to seek and save that which was lost.” So He is definitely aiming to get us INTO Heaven; not trying to keep us out. And that includes His choice servant, The Donald.

I very happily believe that the Lord is using, and intends to continue using Donald Trump to salvage America. I also believe He’s preparing Teddy Cruz’s heart to say YES when Trump offers him the Veep gig.

TRUMP/CRUZ
2016


128 posted on 08/11/2015 12:32:53 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: familyop

"I find your lack of Faith in the Trump disturbing!"
129 posted on 08/11/2015 12:33:12 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Ditto that Buckeye.


130 posted on 08/11/2015 12:33:56 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: caww

What’s funny is I’ve just finished reading and studying that story as I’m reading whole book of Daniel for no other reason than it was the next part of the Bible for me to read. God works best for me when I’m just going along...


131 posted on 08/11/2015 12:35:54 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: caww

Well said, and I totally agree. God will have His way, regardless of our arguments. My hope is that if God uses Trump in this way- whether he wins the election or not- the result will be the destruction of both established parties, the exposure ans inescapable prosecution of corruption, and the return of our government to the people and to obedience to God.


132 posted on 08/11/2015 12:37:47 PM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: JediJones

Did you say, “parlay”?

Yes, and if Trump invokes “PARLEY”, then that right there should get Trump straight to the Captain without molestation...

:)


133 posted on 08/11/2015 12:41:25 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: tioga

I do to Tioga. I’m not happy with the perpetual drift Left either.

We need a paradigm shift. Let’s hope we get it.


134 posted on 08/11/2015 12:41:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If the fetus at one minute old is not alive, what is it?)
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To: Scrambler Bob

The qualities he is speaking about is having no fear, standing up for what you believe in.

Christians have been cowtowed into a corner by the left and the media like Israel was when Goliath defied the armies of Israel and the God of Israel.

Whether anyone likes or supports Donald Trump, he is a champion.


135 posted on 08/11/2015 12:43:48 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (Truth is a priceless commodity worth more it's weight than Gold, GOP plays with fools gold)
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To: RoosterRedux
“when God began to speak to me concerning the destiny of Donald Trump in America:”

(*sigh*) The things God gets blamed for...

136 posted on 08/11/2015 12:46:20 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RoosterRedux
The Holy Spirit spoke to me and said, “Trump shall become My trumpet to the American people, for he possesses qualities that are even hard to find in My people these days.

Whether this guy heard from God or not, I don't know, but i do find it hard to argue with that point considering the state of Christendom in the USA these days.

137 posted on 08/11/2015 12:46:39 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Resettozero

People who claim to hear from God and have *prophetic utterances* tend to talk like that.

They all sound the same and it’s a bit too hokey for me to believe that it’s the Holy Spirit.


138 posted on 08/11/2015 12:48:03 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: CodeJockey

Those pics were taken on Trumps jet. So apparently she was not an ex-pornstar when he married her.


139 posted on 08/11/2015 12:48:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: fingers_crossed

Welcome to FR.


140 posted on 08/11/2015 12:49:07 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Let us do evil that good may come"? ....condemnation is just - Romans 3:8)
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