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Buchanan: ‘Significant’ Number of GOPers Could ‘Walk’ On Trump, Could Be ‘Goldwater Situation’
Breitbart Television ^ | August 10, 2015 | Ian Hanchett

Posted on 08/10/2015 5:04:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Columnist and former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan said that “a significant slice of the Republican Party would take a walk” on GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump “and you could have a Goldwater situation,” and questioned the general election viability of other candidates Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Ben Carson on Monday’s “Sean Hannity Show.”

Buchanan was asked whether Trump should pledge not to run as a third-party candidate. He answered that while this is “a political decision” for Trump, it would be “hard” for the Republicans to win if he runs third-party. Buchanan added, “I think it would be the right thing for him to do, to take that pledge, because I think it would enhance his strength inside the Republican Party. It would remove a problem a lot of Republicans have with him, and I think if he runs third-party, he is not going to win the election. He’s going to be blamed for electing Hillary Rodham Clinton. And having run third-party, Sean, and taken four states away from George Bush, if I were him, I would take the pledge.”

Buchanan also stated that if he were advising Trump, he would have told him to “get some substance in there” before the debate. He specifically talked about Trump’s plan to make Mexico pay for a border fence, and said Trump needed to explain his plan to do so.

Earlier, Buchanan said that Trump, Ted Cruz, Ben Carson, and Carly Fiorina are outsider candidates, and that “there’s a real disgust with the political establishment, a hostility to the political establishment, and I think the Republican Party does not want the establishment candidates who are being put on offer right now....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; buchanan; bush; cruz; election2016; fiorina; immigration; patbuchanan; patrickbuchanan; pitchforkpat; pukecannon; tedcruz; trump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz might get some support if Trump pulls out but he's got a ways to go in getting his message out to pull in the types that trump is pulling in right now.

If Trump DOES pull out he's got it easy...he can just say the Republican party is corrupt and rigged the game to get him out.

Speak the truth...

41 posted on 08/10/2015 5:30:21 PM PDT by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: Hugin
Well, a significant number of Trump supporters will walk if the GOPe screws him out of the nomination. That is, if he has a plurality of delegates and votes, and they collude to give it to someone else.

If that "someone else" was Cruz, would you still walk?

42 posted on 08/10/2015 5:30:25 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Donald Trump is Ross Perot, with hair.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When was the last time Pat was right about anything?..He’s way past his use-by date..


43 posted on 08/10/2015 5:31:01 PM PDT by ken5050 (If the GOP canÂ’t muster the moral courage to defund Planned Parenthood, they don't deserve the WH)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Piss poor reason to leave Cruz.


44 posted on 08/10/2015 5:31:17 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So GOP-e sit on their hands if it Trump...and the base does the same if they run another Bush... so you number wise you think would a push number wise...and who going to get the most Dem crossovers?...

Face it... Bush and the rest of the GOP-E ....IS HATED ON THE LEFT WITH A PASSION ....AND NOW HATED ON THE RIGHT WITH EQUAL PASSION.... Bottom like the idoits it charge of the gop play this mushy middle to the there own death and are just seen as spineless and duplicitous now despised by all sides....pice a side of the road..in the middle of the road and your roadkill hit by traffic coming both ways

45 posted on 08/10/2015 5:31:44 PM PDT by tophat9000 (SCOTUS=News peak)
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To: Paladin2

I think both Jeb and Trump create a landslide for the DEMs. Conservatives sit out Jeb, establishment sits out Trump. Establishment would also sit out and work against Cruz. He’s not “one of them.”


46 posted on 08/10/2015 5:31:46 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Carry_Okie
If that "someone else" was Cruz, would you still walk?

It won't happen. The GOPe would never go along with giving it to Cruz. They hate him too.

47 posted on 08/10/2015 5:35:02 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Pat thinks that Ted Cruz inherits the estate if Trump pulls out”

Trump is leading in the polls; if he stays on topic he will remain in the lead. Why is the idea he will drop out always being postulated? His response to Kelly’s question showed he is nimble on his feet. No one else will be ever be sneaky enough to get one harder to answer. Kelly’s accusation was designed to make him backtrack, knuckle under. He didn’t.


48 posted on 08/10/2015 5:40:28 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Williams

“Let’s face it, Trump didn’t have much new to say. He does need to articulate things better. For example, I would say Huckabee was light years better in that regard, as was Cruz.”

They had better questions. Trump had snark and accusations.


49 posted on 08/10/2015 5:42:09 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Hostage

Who gives a rat’s butt what the GOPe thinks of Cruz? Do you have some secret logic the rest of us can follow? The GOPe hate Trump yet you think he can win. Yet because the GOPe hate Cruz, you say he can’t win. Hello, McFly, anybody home?


50 posted on 08/10/2015 5:44:48 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: tennmountainman

Ditto that.


51 posted on 08/10/2015 5:48:21 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: Bratch

On sheer electability, Rubio would be the best V.P. for Cruz. He helps get the women’s vote by being a pretty boy, a la Quayle. He would completely shore up Florida. A double hispanic ticket may have benefit. He also would campaign on emotion to make up for Cruz’ logic-heavy campaign. He would satiate the GOPe the way Bush Sr. did. So a powerless semi-RINO for 8 years would be a decent trade-off to keep Hillary out.


52 posted on 08/10/2015 5:49:10 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Balding_Eagle

So where would the rude loudmouth vote go in that situation?


53 posted on 08/10/2015 5:51:21 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: SatinDoll
-- What bothers me most about the GOPe is that they do not comprehend how outraged the voters have become over illegal aliens being preferred to U.S. citizens who vote! --

They comprehend the outrage, and are indifferent to it. The GOP, as a party, doesn't care if it is in the minority, and I think it prefers being in the minority. It's more effective in the minority, that's for sure.

Any individual politician picks a party based on sense of which party gives him the best chance of getting into office.

None of it based on principle. It's called "politics." The elites run the country, and conduct a vote occasionally to maintain the illusion that the people have a meaningful voice. The "democracy = freedom" (or "democracy = consent") canard.

54 posted on 08/10/2015 5:53:37 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
I would tend to agree at this point in time.

We'll see if Trump actually has a more sophisticated strategery going on and if he can appeal to the 'rat emotional thinkers.

55 posted on 08/10/2015 5:54:47 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: dfwgator

I heard a story a few years ago about a woman who voted for LBJ “because he was the peace candidate”.

Not many years later her son was KIA in VN.


56 posted on 08/10/2015 5:55:12 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SatinDoll

Just saw an immigration advocate on Fox News saying that we have to open up more immigration because people are waiting too long to get into the country. He thinks this will solve the illegal alien problem, they will be able to come in legally so there will be no need to come into the country illegally. What a dope! There are 7 BILLION PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD! No doubt at least a billion or two would like to come to the United States (especially if we give them welfare benefits). What this guy doesn’t understand is that the more people come to the United States THE BIGGER the DEMAND FOR IMMIGRATION. Because each new immigrant has many relatives and friends who would be inspired to try and come to America. The more immigrants come here the longer the waiting lists are going to be. It is a never ending problem. We have to say enough is enough.


57 posted on 08/10/2015 5:55:49 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Buchanan may have a point

The faction in the GOP that walked on Goldwater still exists

They are not comfortable with the conservative base of the GOP

They will gladly accept their votes if for a RINO

Look what happened to Ollie North in VA in 94

RINOs won't vote for a conservative and conservatives are tired of having RINOs shoved down their throats

GOP may be done as a presidential entity
58 posted on 08/10/2015 5:56:47 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: I am Richard Brandon
"How often must the GOPe lying be exposed before they realize that the jig is up. "

Boner needs to be Cantorized next time around.

59 posted on 08/10/2015 5:57:36 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Hugin
It won't happen. The GOPe would never go along with giving it to Cruz. They hate him too.

They hate Cruz more, because he is relentless, principled, and knows what he's doing. That makes Trump a stalking horse, and frankly, I don't think he really believes half of what he says. If he wasn't, he never would have got so much air time.

60 posted on 08/10/2015 6:05:58 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Donald Trump is Ross Perot, with hair.)
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