Posted on 08/10/2015 4:22:03 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
General Order No.1 is in process:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_order
In militaries and paramilitary organizations, a general order is a published directive, originated by a commander, and binding upon all personnel under his command, the purpose of which is to enforce a policy or procedure unique to his unit’s situation which is not otherwise addressed in applicable service regulations, military law, or public law. A general order has the force of law; it is an offense punishable by court martial or lesser military court to disobey one. What makes it a general order (as opposed to a direct order) is that the actor is not explicitly named, nor precisely what (or who) is to be acted upon.
A general order of indefinite duration may be referred to as a standing order. Standing orders are necessarily general and vague, since the exact circumstances for execution occur in the future under unknown conditions. For example, in most military agencies, there is a standing order for enlisted men to salute officers. The officers are required by the same law to return the salute to the enlisted person; however, the name of each enlisted man is not explicitly named in the order, nor is the name of each officer, nor is the exact time which the salute should occur.
Was it the atom bombs, or the Soviet declaration of war,
What a President who actually had a work schedule of substance? I thought a President held office for the purpose of speeches, golf and golf vacations.
Your reference to the Manchuria and the 6th Tank Guard made me a little curious about Mongolia as I remember seeing a monument with a tank there.
Here is a good current view of their involvement. Note I said current view as we have provided a lot of international help in recent years and they acknowledge the lend lease program.
When I was there was told that VERY FEW CAME BACK FROM SERVING IN THE WAR. Thus there were no personal stories in my opinion and only official information.
http://www.infomongolia.com/ct/ci/9283
The established a tank brigade (44th)and air squadron.
Collected a lot of supplies and 100,000 American dollars for the war and 500,000 horses.
The Bomb was pretty much the factor that pushed the Emperor to call it quits. The second Bomb convinced the Emperor that the US had more Bombs and would not hesitate to use them on Japan.
The Japanese Military could always hold out hope that the Japanese Spirit would prevail against the conventional arms.
That hadn’t worked out to well for the Japanese so far, eh?
However when your enemy can send over 1 aircraft that wipes out a fair sized city and inflicts horrible death and injury to your citizens it’s time to toss in the towel.
Had there not been the second Bomb the Japanese would have fought on a while longer but IMHO would have called it quits by the end of August or so. Logic behind the previous statement by the end of August the full extent of the Soviet advance would have been known and made clear to the Japanese that there was no hope left. Maybe, I hope :-)
Regards
alfa6 ;>}
Logic behind the previous statement by the end of August the full extent of the Soviet advance would have been known and made clear to the Japanese that there was no hope left. Maybe, I hope
I think they would have had so much invested in repelling the invasion, they would have made us do so.
Regarding Dean Rusk (did not know?)
After President of France Charles de Gaulle withdrew France from the common NATO military command in February 1966 and ordered all American military forces to leave France,
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Rusk recorded in his autobiography that de Gaulle did not respond when asked, “Does your order include the bodies of American soldiers in France’s cemeteries?”[14][15]
That would be the position of the military command, the Emperor was looking to end the war as he could see that the end was near.
Most of the military high command was ready to keep on fighting even after the second bomb
Would the Emperor had pulled the plug without the second Bomb, I like to think so but of course we will never know.
Regards
alfa6 ;>}
No kidding.
Frankly, Truman is about the only Democrat president I have much respect for.
I've always found it interesting to wonder how America would be if FDR had stepped aside in 1940 and allowed John Nance Garner to be president. We might have had a conservative Democrat who dismantled much of the New Deal.
Or, if Roosevelt had kicked off a little earlier, before the election of ‘44, we could have had Henry Wallace. *shudder*
Yeah, I hear you. That’s why I qualified my admiration for him.
It sounds like the Reds already had an agreement with Truman to invade, but I wonder if they stepped up that time-table once they saw the first bomb go off. Perhaps they had wanted to wait (to avoid more costly war), but then saw the opportunity to get involved at the last moment and gain territory with little risk or loss?
Seeing the Norwegian underground attack on the heavy water plant. My dad’s cousin was in the Norwegian Underground. My dad asked him what he had done once (would have been in the late 70’s).
“Yes I was in the underground. Nobody, not even my family, knows what I did and I will die with those secrets. The NAZI’s are still out there.”
Whenever I read these types of stories I always think of him. He hid in a pile of coal in the basement when the Germans came through his house. He must have been 18 or so at the time.
He ended up being a very successful businessman.
According to Bergamini, the one player that was unhappy with the deal was Australia, which wanted Hirohito treated as a war criminal and the Imperial system torn down to ensure Japan would never again use it as a means for promoting aggression. The Aussies were mollified by the proviso that Hirohito would essentially be controlled by SCAP, with a nudge from Atlee that they should unite with the rest of the Commonwealth nations--but all this took until the 12th get settled.
If my memory serves, Stalin promised Truman that the Soviets would to go to war against Japan in three months, and they invaded Manchuria in exactly three months, to the day.
Interesting.
The Aussies sure had good reasons for feeling that way, that’s for sure.
Boy, those pesky Communist Russians are an opportunistic lot. They grabbed that territory and never let go until their empire folded like a cheap lawn chair.
Thanks! So I was partly correct perhaps, with the Soviets wanting to spare themselves more loss. I am a bit surprised how large an offensive they were able to mount. Do you know if they had maintained a large army in the east as a defense against a possible Japanese invasion - or did they need to bring over large amounts of troops from Europe?
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