Posted on 08/07/2015 6:32:25 PM PDT by Morgana
Fox News host Megyn Kelly was among the moderators of last nights Republican presidential debate, and her question to Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker Would you really let a mother die rather than have an abortion? has garnered disappointment with pro-lifers for various reasons, not the least of which is because it is not based in fact.
In 2012, a panel of obstetric and gynecological experts signed the Dublin Declaration, which states that direct abortion is not medically necessary to save the life of a woman there is a fundamental difference between abortion, and necessary medical treatments that are carried out to save the life of the mother, even if such treatment results in the loss of life of her unborn child.
When the mothers life is at stake, medical actions are taken with the intent to save the woman, not to dispose of the child.
TRANSCRIPT:
MEGYN KELLY: Governor Walker, youve consistently said that you want to make abortion illegal, even in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother. You recently signed an abortion law in Wisconsin that does have an exception for the mothers life, but youre on record as having objected to it. Would you really let a mother die rather than have an abortion? And with 83% of the American public in favor of a life exception, are you too out of the mainstream on this issue to win the general election?
SCOTT WALKER: Well Im pro-life, Ive always been pro-life, and Ive got a position I think is consistent with many Americans out there in that I believe that that is an unborn child in need of protection out there, and Ive said many a time that that unborn child can be protected and there are many other alternatives that will also protect the life of that mother. Thats been consistently proven. Unlike Hillary Clinton, who has a radical position in terms of support for Planned Parenthood, I defunded Planned Planned more than four years ago, long before any of these videos came out. Ive got a position thats in line with every day America.
Following the debate, Walker had a chance to sit down with Sean Hannity and explain his position further. [I]ts a false choice, Walker said of the life of the mother vs. life of the child proposition. Hes right. Live Action President Lila Rose interjected on Twitter:
Abortion proponents like to remind us that were not living in the 19th century or even the 1950s, but they conveniently forget that means we can handle medically challenging pregnancies and deliveries better than ever before. In a 2004 study from the Alan Guttmacher Institute, only 4% of women cited physical problem with my health as reason for getting an abortion. But never has literal abortion actually been necessary to save the life of the mother, and no woman should be made to believe otherwise. This is where definition comes into play, and where media figures like Kelly get it wrong.
As Governor of California, Ronald Reagan determined that interrupting a pregnancy means the taking of a human life. In our Judeo-Christian tradition, that can only be done in self-defense. Reagans regret over signing an abortion bill (the Therapeutic Abortion Act) with multiple life-of-the-mother, rape, and incest exceptions was seeing those exceptions become exploited loopholes used to increase the number of abortions in California. He cited his inexperience in government at that time as the reason for that mistake.
It is understandable that Walker would maintain a firm pro-life position to avoid a similar error, though virtually all legislation regarding abortion signed by pro-life executives has a superfluous life-of-the-mother exception in print anyway.
Debate moderators shouldnt shy away from asking any candidate challenging questions, but they need to be careful to not frame a question in a misleading way, or use rhetoric from the media thought pool instead of what citizens need to know. Would you really let a mother die rather than have an abortion? is an emotional ploy that first misconstrues the definition of literal, direct abortion with a false choice, and secondly misconstrues the role of the U.S. President on this issue.
Strictly speaking, according to Article II of the U.S. Constitution, the president cannot be a pro-abortion or pro-life absolute monarch. He does not, with a wave of his hand, order the legality or illegality of abortions. He doesnt write the laws or rule their constitutionality. He doesnt control what the States decide within themselves. As far as abortion is concerned, the president must have discernment in signing legislation, vetoing legislation (which can be overridden), nominating judges (which can be rejected by the Senate), and perhaps in appointing department heads that carry out the laws of the land (which can be rejected by the Senate).
But a citizenry that cares about the lives of mothers and babies must be proactive at all levels of government and community, and not rely upon a presidential candidates views or record for solving or hindering the pro-life cause in one fell swoop.
Holy cow. You are brilliant. I NEVER thought of it, but I am using it to bash that point across to those baby killers.
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Walker stakes his pro-life positionn at debate.
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I was shocked that anybody here doubted this.
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“I defunded Planned Planned more than four years ago, long before any of these videos came out. Ive got a position thats in line with every day America.”
And thank GOD for that, Governor Walker!
Women were sold SUCH a bill of goods on Roe v. Wade. I’ve NEVER understood what was behind that, other than easy extermination of our offspring. WHO has it benefited? You always need to follow the money, and I’ll bet PP was on the front lines advocating for its passage. Cha-CHING!
Can you imagine something like that being passed today, with all of the technology we now have?
In democrat debates no one will be asked to go on the record about gun control.
Why?
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Because gun control issues works against democrats...
BTTT!
Thank God there are more of us stating this. FOX News has repeatedly misrepresented Walker’s position. Do these commentators think if they ignore him he will go away?
Well, they certainly were doing a great job of ignoring Scott Walker on Fox News Sunday. They barely asked him any questions at the debate. Then, this morning, when they divided the candidates into "combative" and "statesmen" groups, he was left out completely. Scott might as well have not shown up at all Thursday night.
Guess He’ll have to say something stupid to get attention.
Good info to have and we need to source them asap before this election gets started. I’m not surprised that we’ve been lied to, it’s the devil’s world.
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