Posted on 08/07/2015 7:10:35 AM PDT by Will88
Much is being made of Trump's refusal last night to pledge to support the eventual GOP nominee if it is not him. But it seems to me that he did not provide the most valid reasons for his refusal, at least not the details.
Many news stories and past discussion threads here concerned an attempt a couple of weeks by "Big Donors'" to concoct a scheme to force Trump out of the first debate. Then this week, other stories about how more "Big Donor" were demanding that Trump be "taken out" in the first debate.
Trump probably won that exchange with Chris Wallace, but he could have won it much bigger.
Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
I wish Trump had reminded the Fox folks and the audience of those incidents as reasons why he must keep his options open, to make his concern whether he will be treated fairly much more vivid and real to those who might not have heard these stories.
It's frustrating when Trump does not present his best case on some issues, and those "Big Donors" attempts to thwart the debate and electoral process should have been roundly condemned by the RNC and the media. Crickets.
How many conservative voters will not support the Republican nominee if it is Jeb etc? A lot.
The GOPe want him out. That’s a great reason for his stance.
I wish he’d said that if the GOP doesn’t nominate a candidate who’s committed to Republican ideals, he could consider representing those ideals in a third party - does anyone really expect the electorate to continue voting for squishes who say one thing and do another (see, for example McConnell and Boehner)?
There’s a reason the Whigs evaporated and somebody else took their place - not that I’m saying Trump is Lincoln, but if he’d been more on his game, he could have gone in that direction.
He shouldn’t take such a stupid pledge which is contrived to put him on the spot because it immediately demonstrates slavery to the media. He shouldn’t play their game. His refusal is entirely consistent.
Yes, 100% justified, but he didn't say that and many don't know about these schemes to damage him by "Big Donors". He could work wonders with that. He's done unbelievably well so far, but he's missing opportunities to do even better by adding more to his standard comments on issues.
The request for a show of hands, first off, in pledge was the media’s attempt to force Trump to knuckle under, to submit. He did not, which is more important than to assent to the pledge.
He was right. Too many take pledges they cannot or do not keep.
“Read my lips, no new taxes.”
I wish he would have said something to the effect that broadcasting the point at which you will surrender is why the GOP can’t get anything done.
It was his very first debate and I think he’ll do better next time.
the game is hard ball....
Trump’s message....... if you take me out, I’ll kill you
he was negotiating the deal.
If I had been on the stage with Romney I could and would not have pledged to support him as the nominee..
Hes a RINO/Liberal and is polar opposite to me in ideologies..
Trump is too smart to pledge to support someone who might not have the same stance on issues that he does..
How could Trump support a Rubio who was a member of the Gang of Eight and even pushed his AMNESTY stance last night on the stage..
very subtlely but he did so..
A good candidate should be loyal to principles and ideas, not to a political party. Party loyalty is what has allowed the RNC to push one terrible candidate after another since 1988. They wouldn’t get away with it if party loyalty didn’t trump (no bad pun intended) principles.
If that split ever happened, and some big name conservatives left the Republican party, the remaining Republicans would have a hard time finding a state they could win in a national election. The states voting Republican in presidential elections are all pretty conservative.
I think he should have said he will take the pledge.
To the United States Of America. Not to a political party or politician.
Nuff said.
Play the scenario out...Trump wins 20 of the state primaries, and the rest of carved up between Scott Walker, Cruz, Bush and the rest.
Trump shows up at the convention with a majority of delegates but not enough to clearly win. Deal-making would occur.
In this case however, there are roughly the same number of unassigned delegates as primary delegates. So the VIP unassigned delegates launch their platform and bring enough vote for Bush to be the guy. All of the primary business will be viewed as a fraud and Trump will be sitting in a hostile mode.
People walk out of the convention confused and angry....a guy with only ten primary state wins...somehow gets enough delegates to be the contender. No one will buy off on that.
In this case, Trump will run. Split party ticket with forty-percent of Republican base and twenty-percent of independent base. Trump can’t win Presidency unless he convinces a quarter of Democrats to give up on Hillary and vote for him.
Basically, a lose-lose-lose scenario, if you ask me. You might still get Trump, but the negative belief in the Republican Party will be such that it has no choice but to split. We would have to have three parties in existence.
He was the only honest one up there in this regard. How many of the others will support Trump if HE is the nominee?
The GOP needs to realize we are not about winning for their party any more, if we ever were. We’re trying to save the damn country from them and the Democrats.
Trump won't take the pledge because he wants to make sure he is being treated fairly.
That's the wrong answer. He shouldn't make it about him.
What he should have said is that he won't take the pledge because the nominee may be a RINO.
For example what if the party treats Trump poorly but the nominee turns out to be Cruz?
Trump is running against these people just as much as he’s running against the Democrats...Like Cruz, he’s running against the Cartel...Why would he pledge to support them???
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