Posted on 07/31/2015 1:35:31 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
As outrage grows over the killing of Cecil the lion, Zimbabwe has called on the United States to extradite the American dentist who shot the prized big cat.
Zimbabwe has started extradition proceedings and hopes the United States will cooperate, said Oppah Muchinguri, the African nation's environment minister.
Walter Palmer "had a well-orchestrated agenda which would tarnish the image of Zimbabwe and further strain the relationship between Zimbabwe and the USA," Muchinguri said.
Palmer, his professional hunter guide, and the owner of the land where the hunt took place are accused of an illegal hunt under the country's Parks and Wildlife Act, Muchinguri said in a statement on the country's parks and wildlife website.
Specifically, Palmer is accused of financing an illegal hunt, and he and the professional hunter are also accused of illegally using a crossbow "to conceal the illegal hunt" so they wouldn't alert rangers on patrol, she said.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
thank you for that explanation
That’s okay Ed. I’m fine with your view of me.
When I walk into a hotel or restaurant with heads on the wall, I think of it as commemorating the animals found in the region.
When I walk into a private home with heads all over the place, it seems more like, “Look at me. I killed one of each of these animals, and gosh I’m proud for you to know.”
If it’s all about food, where’s the mounted chicken head? They eat chicken don’t they? No, they mount the more exotic animals for show.
Killing to eat, fine. Bragging about doing it, not so fine.
Walking in a room dedicated to self, adorning the room with remnants of dead animals someone is proud to have me know they killed, no thanks.
Rather weird. Mugabee currying favor with the old media in the U.S., which will reduce income to his country, as he scares away trophy hunters from around the world.
But no one ever believes that Mugabee has the slightest concern for his country, anymore, if they ever did.
The instinct to push leftist causes is strong with this one. Maybe it is Narcissism, and he just wants a share of the limelight. Could be he is jealous of an old, dead, lion getting all this attention.
“Maybe he could become Mugabe’s personal dentist and hunt for his dinner on the side.”
If he gets extradited, that might be his best hope.
I read an account of Idi Amin’s personal doctor. He survived, and was reasonably well treated while he was in Uganda.
“Yes! I’ve changed my tune completely from two days ago. It turns out that not one African had ever heard of this lion until some western journalist decided to make up some story that he was the conscience of the savannah (a sort of lion-like Joe Lieberman) and blow it up into a hit piece on RICH AMERICANS killing the entire wildlife of Africa. Obama will ship out this poor bastard quicker than he saved Private Bergdahl.”
Bingo!
I don’t know if it is an “explanation” - more of a guess! While I’m not opposed to someone killing an animal within the long-standing traditions of the sport and obeying the laws, I can’t stand people that disregard them. Like poachers and slob hunters.
This dentist guy may or may not have known what was going on with this hunt and if any laws were broken. But it sounds from his past history that he might be a slob “sportsman” - fishing without a license and shooting a bear illegally. So he might well have been on the sly about it.
“My point is that barbaric countries, which Zim is, have different laws and sometimes it’s barbarous to subject Americans to their injustice, as such would happen were we to send the dentist back to Zimbabwe.”
I am not sure that anyone in Zimbabwe knows what the laws are, at any time, for certain.
I believe that Mugabe can basicly change the law at any point, if he wants to, and the courts there will be made to uphold it.
Zimbabwe is a dictatorship.
mountainbunny wrote:
“He did things that might very well get him thrown in prison here (burying the tag, baiting the animal, animal cruelty -using an underpowered bow).”
marktwain replies:
You seem to be just making things up. Baiting is legal in most states in the U.S.
I have not seen any claim about “burying the tag” (what tag?) anywhere else. If you mean the collar, I do not know of any law requiring that radio tracking collars in the U.S. be returned.
As for the “underpowered bow”, again, you just seem to be making it up as you go.
I will happily retract my statements if you produce links to evidence that your accusations are correct.
But I have not seen anything to indicate that they are.
More drama according to Facebook: his brother or nephew or kissing cousin, Jericho, was just taken down. I must admit, today there were finally some rye comments made about this story. Not everybody is buying this overblown sob story.
Some are already calling for an end to sport hunting, because of the poachers in this second case.
Irrational, emotional, pushed by the MSM.
“If I walked into a home with a “big game” room, I’d turn around and leave.”
Thar would leave more room for me to gaze on upon and admire the really cool stuff on the walls.
It is not much farther to fullblown lynching. If the Dentist were murdered, there would be howls of satisfaction from the mob.
Who can stand against such outpouring of insane emotion?
No one can. Whoever learns to manipulate the mob becomes the ruler of everyone. All learn to fear the slightest infraction. It is a horrible form of tyranny.
Which is exactly what I want for you, if you enjoy it.
I’m sickened by it, marktwain. I would provide him shelter if he needed it. As far as I’m concerned, he can be guilty as hell but I would not subject him to this madness. What did he do anyway? He went hunting and bagged a beast. Yes, a gorgeous animal, I must admit, but Zimbabwe needs the money from these hunters - it’s the only income they have now that the farmers have gone.
At worst, he participated and encouraged the illegal taking of a lion that he paid the license fees for.
This equating of animals as some sort of super-entity that deserve protection far beyond the rule of law or reason is a weird outgrowth of Disneyfication, I guess.
It is like an induced hatred. I know otherwise sane people who are afflicted with it.
I think they see the lion as a sort of an expression of nobility, innocence, and freedom. There is also an element of class warfare. They hate the Dentist because he can afford $50,000 fees.
Very sad.
It is also very much tied up into worldwide anti-Americanism. Go to the London Telegraph and find the essay about how Americans love to kill and murder. It has over 1,000 comments mostly hating on Americans. I suppose if an Israeli dentist had done this it would be up over 3,000. Facebook is also having a meltdown over a Jewish settler murdering some Palestinians. The hate is frightening.
Induced hatred - very to the point.
The reason I brought up the .45 ammo scenario is because it actually happened.
A guy drove his pickup truck into Mexico and there was a loose .45 bullet underneath his seat, that had somehow fallen down and rolled there.
The federales confiscated his truck, sent him to prison and it was awhile before he could be freed.
Using your beliefs, you would support that man being extradited to Mexico to serve 20 years, if he had told someone he had driven into Mexico with that bullet, then came home with it undiscovered.
Do you see why I think that’s a travesty in some cases?
See ya’,
Ed
That is so cool! I’d love to live in the foirest like that, what a neat way to raise your kids!
I like Pendelton, and I love the Gorge, and those beautiful little towns on the rim, and the waterfalls.
I’m down in Southwest Oregon, where it’s been 106 for the last few days and a forest fire up the road in Canyonville is turning the sky into dense, grey smoke.
Do you live in the woods, now, or at least someplace rural?
See ya’,
Ed
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