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Iran orders from China 150 J-10 fighter jets that incorporate Israeli technology
DEBKAfile ^ | July 30, 2015

Posted on 07/30/2015 10:25:56 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Iran is about to conclude a transaction with China for the purchase of the Chengdu J-10 multirole jet fighter, known in the West as the Vigorous Dragon, according to an exclusive report from DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources. Beijing has agreed to sell Tehran 150 of these sophisticated jets.

While the Chinese J-10 is comparable to the US F-16, our sources report that it is virtually a replica of the Lavi, the super-fighter developed by Israel’s aerospace industry in the second half of the 80s. Israel sold China the technology, after Washington insisted on Its discontinuing the Lavi’s production. The US also objected to the sale of the Lavi’s avionics, claiming that it contained some American components.

The Chinese plane comes in two versions – the multirole single-seat J-10A and the two-seat J-10B, which serves for training, ground assaults and electronic warfare.

Iran has additionally weighing the purchase in Moscow of 250 highly-advanced Sukhoi-Su-30MK1 twinjet multirole air superiority fighters, known in the West as Flanker-H.

On Wednesday, July 29, an Indian Air Force Su-30MK1 took part for the first time in a British air maneuver, Rainbow, where it dueled with the European Typhoon fighter.

The sophisticated Flanker has been found to have a major shortcoming. To carry eight tons of ordnance, it must use both of its AL-31FP engines, and the transition from one to two – and the reverse - often causes engine failure.

The Indian Air Force has reported three such malfunctions in a month, as well another shortcoming: The time needed for making the aircraft serviceable is too long. As a result, only half of the Indian fleet can be airborne at one time.

In a confrontation, the Iranian Air Force may find that, because of these drawbacks, the Chinese Su-30MK1 is outmatched by its American and European counterparts in the service of the Israeli, Saudi and UAE air forces.

On July 22, DEBKAfile revealed that Moscow and Tehran had concluded a giant transaction for the acquisition of a fleet of 100 IL78 MK1 (Midas) in-flight refueling planes for extending the range of its warplanes up to 7,300 km and able to refuel 6-8 planes at once.

DEBKAfile: The scale of Iran’s multibillion acquisitions from China and Russia – 550 warplanes in all so far - indicates that Tehran’s top spending priority upon receipt of the funds released by the removal of sanctions, is to be a spanking new air force.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; iran; israel; j10; lebanon; russia; waronterror
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To: CurlyDave

Well, they won’t be striking the other 2/3 of Iran with F-15I and F-16I. Not without refueling way, way out.

It’s simply too far.

Cruise missiles from subs - yes, that will work in some cases.


21 posted on 07/31/2015 12:53:24 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Hopefully there’;s a hidden line of code,,,,,,,


or one of those lil kill chips


22 posted on 07/31/2015 2:25:46 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Where’s Pollard press agent on this?


23 posted on 07/31/2015 3:24:05 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Carrying PL-8’s, a licensed version of the Israeli Python 3.


24 posted on 07/31/2015 3:59:19 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: SaveFerris

Thank you for the clarification.

Irish


25 posted on 07/31/2015 9:03:33 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: SaveFerris

Saudi Arabia will help Israel on the sly.


26 posted on 07/31/2015 10:12:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now remember honey, if you can't remember your name, just tell the police JEB. John Ellis "Jeb" Bush)
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Now they can pay cash

27 posted on 07/31/2015 12:17:10 PM PDT by SJackson (C Matthews: should NY State recognize gay marriage? Sen Clinton: "No!" The crowd booed, 2002)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Israeli technology = On/Off switch : )


28 posted on 07/31/2015 1:12:05 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

It looks like they can attack anytime.

Distance from Tehran to Tel Aviv
Distance is 1588 kilometers or 987 miles or 858 nautical miles
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distanceresult.html?p1=246&p2=676

Lockheed Martin F-16 Specs
Length: 49 ft, 5 in.
Span: 32 ft, 8 in.
Takeoff weight: 37,500 lbs
Max speed: 1,500 mph
Max altitude: 50,000 ft plus
Range: 2,425 mi
Engine: One 27,000-lb-thrust Pratt & Whitney F100


29 posted on 07/31/2015 1:25:51 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

That’s the ferry range mentioned, not the combat radius, which typically includes air to air missiles and (heavy) air to ground munitions. The combat radius of the F-16 is much lower, though they can still can hit Iran with their CFTs and tanker support.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-16-specs.htm


30 posted on 07/31/2015 9:28:33 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: minnesota_bound

Divide the range numbers in 2, if not 3, for combat radius (barring refueling).

Personally, I would develop massive cheap drones, in large, large, numbers (say 1000), and have them kamikaze it after key radar and missle stations hit by missle.


31 posted on 08/03/2015 2:12:05 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

You do this at there political leaders locations as well.


32 posted on 08/03/2015 2:37:43 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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