Posted on 07/30/2015 6:02:43 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
Has Donald Trump made his first serious boo-boo of the campaign?
For weeks, the media have trumpeted the supposed death of the Trump campaign. First, they claimed, Trump’s campaign imploded on launch thanks to his comments about illegal immigration. Then they claimed that Trump was finished because of his slap at Senator Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)43% ’s (R-AZ) war service. But neither of those comments alienated Trump’s base – he’s maintained his seven point lead over Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker in the 2016 presidential polls, with no other candidate breaking double-digits in the polls. In fact, his original comments about illegal immigration launched his candidacy to prominence, with many Americans relieved that a major candidate had finally touched the media third rail and talked openly about illegal immigrant criminality.
Now, however, Trump may have damaged himself with the very people excited by his candidacy. Asked point blank about his immigration policy, Trump dropped the brashness and the blurting, and suddenly went completely Hillary-vague on CNN. After blathering about deporting criminal illegal immigrants – even President Obama pays lip service to this idea – Trump continued:
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Currently. But your emperor has no clothes and that's being demonstrated more and more each day.
I remain constantly amazed that so many Freepers simply will not understand that the polls at this time of a cycle are almost always meaningless.....there’s been no debates, not one ad has been run.....the big talkers have not made it clear who exactly they like.....the game has not even started....and yet they post these polls as if they are written in stone and permanence on the mountain top....
Iowa has seen a lot of ads already. Rick Perry noticeably.
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okay, so a few little things have started in Iowa....which are also meaningless, since we know from 2011-12 that Iowa polls had about 6 different leaders over the final few weeks heading into the Caucus.
And there are not national ads yet. NONE. Except some internet videos and such.
I think Mark Cuban summed the Trump supporters up to a tee when he said he didn’t really care what Trump was saying, he was just glad he was saying it. Sooner or later the real Donald will be unmasked as someone with no clue how to really solve anything or solutions that are more attuned to the Democrat playbook than the Republican one.
That’s about right...and I have to tell you, how Trump is handling messaging and how he’s fearless - all of those things I’ve been writing about for decades....so I love that part of it.
But my driving principle is truth.....and the truth is, this is not the man in whom we need to invest our hopes. He just isn’t. For example, I’ve not heard a peep on limiting government....or The Constitution from him. Maybe he’s said something...I’m open to learn...but it’s safe to say that these are not high on his priority list.
And damn, I thought that’s what we wanted around here. Apparently it’s more important to tick off the establishment than anything else. Yes, that’s very important, but not more important than TRUTH .
Damn, I've said this 25 times in this thread already....I don't disagree with any of that. I've been on this forum for years saying that it's a 70 year problem and there's no kind of massive deport fantasy that can possibly cure it in a week. I've said all of that above, and been flamed by the very SAME PEOPLE who are now giving Trump all kinds of excuses for saying it. THATS THE PROBLEM....this cult of personality.
http://www.texastribune.org/2013/09/13/immigration-cruz-aims-middle-ground/
Perhaps not. That was not one of my criteria.
Santorum is the best.
40% of the illegals come here legally and overstay their visas. Sealing the border only solves part of the problem.
We can walk and chew gum at the same time. You must enforce our laws and not wait for the border to be secured.
None of the professional politicians will build the wall. I am excluding Santorum since he has no chance in 2016. I have to believe Trump will try very hard to build the wall.
The Secure Fence Act was passed in 2006 just before the midterms. Obama and Hillary voted for it along with most of the Senate. Subsequently, the law was undermined led by Kay Bailey Hutchinson. The pressure comes from economic interests along the border. Many Mexicans come across to shop and some even send their children to US schools. Over 4 million Border Crossing Cards (BCC) have been issued to facilitate the movement of people across the border. And some people even speculate that the drug money is so great that some of our officials have been bribed to keep the status quo.
If Trump were President, it would be interesting to see if he would carry thru on his promise or even be able to given the resistance in Congress and from interest groups like La Raza and the Chamber of Commerce. The Dems are against it along with the Hispanic Caucus.
We admit 50 million visitors a year, most of them on tourist visas. And there is the Visa Wavier Program, a reciprocal arrangement with 38 countries that allow their nationals to come here without visas and allows us to do the same when visiting them.
Some believe it is a matter of national security that we do a better job of screening visitors. We have different approaches to individual countries based on data showing what countries have high visa overstay rates. There are criteria used to ferret out nationals of these countries who do not intend to leave once their visas expire. These countries have high visa refusal rates. So, I don't agree that we should make tourist visas easy to get. It depends on the country and our documented experience with their nationals.
I also support increased guest worker VISAs when the national unemployment rate falls below 3% but the wages need to match that which would be received by an American citizen in the same position/company (so that company does not try to reject American workers in order to pay the foreign worker less money.
I assume you mean guest or temporary worker visas. Actually, sponsoring employers are supposed to show that they cannot get Americans to fill those positions and the law requires they be paid the prevailing wage. Its implementation is much different than what the law requires. Employers are circumventing it using lies and fraud. There is tremendous abuse.
US VISAs are very difficult to get even now under Obama. It’s much easier to sneak over the border.
Again, it depends on the country. If you are from Bangladesh, for example, it is very difficult to get a tourist visa. If you are from Germany, you don't need a visa.
If there is any type of amnesty I would support it would be a bit similar to what I heard Trump describe and that is, someone outstanding who has proven himself to be a good “resident” who has never collected government welfare and had paid income taxes on earnings made while here illegally.
It is illegal for an employer to hire an illegal alien and it is illegal for an illegal alien to work. Many of these "outstanding" lawbreakers have broken many laws including ID theft, misuse of SSNs, lying on employment forms, tax evasion, etc. Many collect welfare thru their US born children.
The most difficult part of it all would be the process of tracking. The laws are in the books. Enforce them.
It is not difficult to track people if we have the will to do and the cooperation of the public. We have sanctuary cities and colleges that fail to notify ICE when a foreign student drops out of school. My daughter studied in Germany. Once a month she had to go to the local government office to check in and confirm her status. Failure to do so meant removal from the country and never being allowed to enter legally again.
I don’t see how your response has anything to do with what I wrote. There aren’t jobs Americans won’t do and the data prove it. The issue is cheap labor. Employers want to keep the supply of cheap, exploitable labor coming. When you have a surplus of labor, you can keep the wages low.
What's better than that is the deportation of the 2 million criminal illegal aliens PLUS the deportation of the 18 million "non-criminal" illegal aliens.
Short of deporting the 18 million non criminal illegals, NOT allowing amnesty for them and enforcing the existing laws is better than allowing amnesty.
For non criminal illegals, Trump is for a Touch Back "deportation" with a Citizenship Amnesty. That's not deportation. That's amnesty for 18 million illegal aliens.
There's no two ways about it, that's terrible.
Does this even make any sense?
Trump is incoherent at best...
And he gives no details on HOW he will do these things.
Another take would be to remove ALL welfare from those here illegally, as well as from those who CAN work, but aren’t (means testing, time limits, etc.).
It would be amazing the amount of labor suddenly available, for our work force.
All true, except for the fact that NONE of the candidates except Donald Trump even mention the word DEPORT anywhere.
In other words no one is for deporting ALL the illegals.
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