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Fleeing New Jersey, and Its Crushing Taxes, for a Better Life: The Story of an American Refugee
National Review ^ | 07/27/2015 | Lee Habeeb

Posted on 07/28/2015 4:53:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/28/2015 4:53:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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A $32,000 house in 1961 would have been a pretty nice house.

Well that is if it had been somewhere other than Northern New Jersey.


2 posted on 07/28/2015 4:55:54 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: SeekAndFind

Worked on a case a few months ago where the target lived in a home in NJ valued at 1.6M. His property taxes were over $27,000 a year! I just thought “wow” that’s more than a lot of people make in a year. Hell no wonder everyone is fleeing the state.


3 posted on 07/28/2015 5:00:16 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, this is a story that happens over and over and over again in states like this. I find it curious that the author never once mentioned how his father ever voted, did vote or who he might have supported.


4 posted on 07/28/2015 5:00:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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His property taxes were over $27,000 a year! I just thought “wow” that’s more than a lot of people make in a year.

Buying votes for incumbent politicians ain't cheap.

5 posted on 07/28/2015 5:04:09 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: SeekAndFind

An 81 year old man forced to move under the circumstances described has my sympathy. But his life getting to that age was pretty darn good and he has much of which to be proud. I am like him-—not as old-—but much to look back at with happy thoughts but not so much because of government when it comes to the future. I shudder for my kid and grandkids.


6 posted on 07/28/2015 5:06:19 AM PDT by yetidog
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To: SeekAndFind

In my state, depending on which town you live in, the school portion of your property taxes is dropped once you reach 62, 65 or whatever age the town sets. That’s about 90% of your total tax bill.


7 posted on 07/28/2015 5:10:41 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: SeekAndFind

Doesn’t New Jersey even charge an “exit tax” to get every last dime out of taxpayers leaving the state?

My parents are going to pull up stakes and gtfo of New England when my Dad retires. Which is soon. Their state doesn’t have an exit tax, yet, but a few months back my Dad showed me what death, er, estate taxes were going to do to his wealth if they were still residents when they passed. AND how much will be left in their new state of residency.


8 posted on 07/28/2015 5:14:17 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SeekAndFind

I happened to notice from the article that the man had been Superintendent of Public Schools. And now he moves because the schools spend too much money and the taxes to support them are too high. Sounds like Frankenstein is crying over the monster he created.


9 posted on 07/28/2015 5:14:47 AM PDT by henkster (Where'd my tagline go?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Play SimCity for a while.


10 posted on 07/28/2015 5:16:10 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: henkster

+1, insightful


11 posted on 07/28/2015 5:22:47 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: henkster

I think you nailed it.


12 posted on 07/28/2015 5:24:16 AM PDT by Patriot365
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To: SeekAndFind

I used to live in north Jersey and it was a pretty good place to live until Democrat Jim Florio became governor.

Florio raised taxes, passed a bunch of expensive local regulations and drove so much industry either out of state or out of business that it caused a local recession in the northeast US.


13 posted on 07/28/2015 5:26:43 AM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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In New Jersey, $6,000 out of $8,000 in yearly property taxes goes to that mob family called educators and their union and benefits.

This was done by democrats and their friends.

Not policeman, not fireman- to teachers their unions and benefits.
14 posted on 07/28/2015 5:30:37 AM PDT by novemberslady
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“he took the plunge with his young bride and purchased his first and only home, for $32,000, back in 1961”

During the peak of the housing boom the price of that house probably shot up to 15 or more times that. Back in 1970 my father bought a house in Queens NY for $19,000. At one point during the peak similar houses were going for around $400,000.


15 posted on 07/28/2015 5:31:27 AM PDT by ETL
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I’m always amazed at ginormous housing prices in places they couldn’t pay me to live (NYC, Chicago, SF)


16 posted on 07/28/2015 5:32:39 AM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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Indeed, New Jersey led all 50 states in one tragic category: creating refugees. Last year, the Garden State lost more residents as a percentage of its overall population than any other state in the country, according to a 2014 National Movers Study commissioned by United Van Lines of St. Louis.

After all the taxpayers are driven out, thery can be replaced with new immigrants, legal and illegal, who will overburden the state's welfare system so severely that it will follow California, and Illinois into bankruptcy.

17 posted on 07/28/2015 5:38:02 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Let us now try liberty)
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Moving state to state still not as hard as what the pilgrims did. And they were just fleeing religious persecution. England allowed non church of England religions, but they were taxed/fined for not belonging to COE. The justification being that COE members were contributing to the hat so non-members needed to pay up too.

We actually have a similar situation federally w/commie care. Folks will be taxed/fined for their “non healthy” lifestyle.

When I was ready to move, I left Monkey County MD not only due to taxes, but to get away from all the damn speed cameras. I only went to Nona, so didn’t get that much diff in taxes, but the qual of life was immediately noticeable. Gov in MD is too in your face. Can’t even get away from it at the grocery store where you’re always asked “would you like a bag for that?” (bag tax).

All these little straws added up to break my back. I had been in MoCo about 40 years and had the unfortunate ability to watch the tyranny develop there over time. Glad I’m out.


18 posted on 07/28/2015 5:39:47 AM PDT by fruser1
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Yes, this is a story that happens over and over and over again in states like this. I find it curious that the author never once mentioned how his father ever voted, did vote or who he might have supported.

Don't know about his father, but the author Lee Habeeb used to be Laura Ingraham's producer on her radio show.

19 posted on 07/28/2015 5:39:49 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Let us now try liberty)
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And that is the answer to the unasked question by the author. A high percentage of people are employed by some governmental job. Many, many teachers. They retire and live like movie stars and incidentally, also leave the state. We got out of the insanity four years ago. Kinda miss Stone Harbor though.


20 posted on 07/28/2015 5:46:03 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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